Text 13281, 164 rader
Skriven 2005-06-03 17:20:10 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
  Kommentar till text 13271 av BOB SAKOWSKI (1:123/140)
Ärende: Gore and the internet
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Fuck Snopes.com.  They have been proven to be biased a number of times, as you
well know.  I posted the relevant quote from the Wolf Blitzer interview, so
your Snopes stuff is redundant to say the least.  Go ahead though, claim that
Gore is the second coming of Christ and all will be well if we just elect a
Democrat.  Go ahead, Bob, we all believe you.


03 Jun 05 15:20, BOB SAKOWSKI wrote to JOHN MASSEY:

 ->>  BS> You know, a verifiable cite.
 ->> 
 ->>  "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the 
 ->> initiative
 BS> in
 ->> creating the Internet"  

 BS> Why not tell the rest of the story John?

 BS> Via Snopes:

 BS> Internet of Lies

 BS> Claim:   Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the 
 BS> Internet.

 BS> Status:   False.

 BS> Origins:   Despite the derisive references that continue even 
 BS> today, Al
 BS> Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say 
 BS> anything that
 BS> could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he 
 BS> 'invented'
 BS> the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context 
 BS> distortions of
 BS> something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's 
 BS> "Late
 BS> Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what 
 BS> distinguished
 BS> him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential 
 BS> nomination, Senator
 BS> Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):
 BS> During my service in the United States Congress, I took the 
 BS> initiative in
 BS> creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a 
 BS> whole
 BS> range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our 
 BS> country's
 BS> economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our
 BS> educational system.

 BS> Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and perhaps 
 BS> self-serving), he
 BS> was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of 
 BS> having
 BS> designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible, in an 
 BS> economic
 BS> and legislative sense, for fostering the development the I also 
 BS> invented
 BS> the microphone technology that we now know as the Internet. To 
 BS> claim that
 BS> Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of 
 BS> the
 BS> Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose 
 BS> out of a
 BS> close presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," 
 BS> and the
 BS> words "create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings — 
 BS> the former
 BS> is used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into 
 BS> existence" while
 BS> the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of 
 BS> someone's
 BS> thinking up or implementing an idea. (To those who say the words 
 BS> "create"
 BS> and "invent" mean exactly the same thing, we have to ask why, 
 BS> then, the
 BS> media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed 
 BS> he
 BS> "invented" the Internet, even though he never used that word, and
 BS> transcripts of what he actually said were readily available.)

 BS> If President Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while 
 BS> President,
 BS> "created" the Interstate Highway System, we would not have seen 
 BS> dozens and
 BS> dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the 
 BS> concept
 BS> of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug 
 BS> ditches across
 BS> the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have 
 BS> understood that
 BS> Ike meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that 
 BS> created the
 BS> highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was 
 BS> expressing
 BS> about himself with his Internet statement.

 BS> Whether Gore's statement that he "took the initiative in creating 
 BS> the
 BS> Internet" is justified is a subject of debate. Any statement about 
 BS> the
 BS> "creation" or "beginning" of the Internet is difficult to 
 BS> evaluate, because
 BS> the Internet is not a homogenous entity (it's a collection of 
 BS> computers,
 BS> networks, protocols, standards, and application programs), nor did 
 BS> it all
 BS> spring into being at once (the components that comprise the 
 BS> Internet were
 BS> developed in various places at different times and are 
 BS> continuously being
 BS> modified, improved, and expanded). Despite a spirited defense of 
 BS> Gore's
 BS> claim by Vint Cerf (often referred to as the "father of the 
 BS> Internet") in
 BS> which he stated "that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore 
 BS> has made
 BS> it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and 
 BS> issues that
 BS> surround it," many of the components of today's Internet came into 
 BS> being
 BS> well before Gore's first term in Congress began in 1977.

 BS> It is true, though, that Gore was popularizing the term 
 BS> "information
 BS> superhighway" in the early 1990s (although he did not, as is often 
 BS> claimed
 BS> by others, coin the phrase himself) when few people outside 
 BS> academia or the
 BS> computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he 
 BS> sponsored the
 BS> 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a 
 BS> national
 BS> computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a 
 BS> shared
 BS> network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and 
 BS> Technology Act
 BS> of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic).

 BS> In May 2005, the organizers of the Webby Awards for online 
 BS> achievements
 BS> honored Al Gore with a lifetime achievement award for three 
 BS> decades of
 BS> contributions to the Internet. "He is indeed due some thanks and
 BS> consideration for his early contributions," said Vint Cerf.


 BS> A lie of omission is still a lie John but then that is a way of 
 BS> life with
 BS> the extremist right, isn't it?


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