Text 13720, 109 rader
Skriven 2005-06-25 02:38:12 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
     Kommentar till en text av Alan Hess
Ärende: Durbin
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24 Jun 05 14:36, Alan Hess wrote to John Hull:

 AH> Whilst masticating on <Jun 23 05>, John Hull (1:379/1.99)
 AH> wrote to Alan Hess:

 JH>> We didn't miss anything.  Those people in Gitmo are treated far 
 JH>> better than they have any right to expect.  THEY ARE TERRORISTS - 
 JH>> NOT UNIFORMED SOLDIERS - WHAT DON'T YOU GET ABOUT THAT, ALAN????? 
 JH>> Who gives a good god damn about their Koran?  Who cares whether 
 JH>> or not they're under stress?  They're living under better 
 JH>> conditions than our own troops in the field are, and you liberals 
 JH>> have the utter gall to sit there and say Durbin is right?

 AH> His point was right.  His rhetoric was over the top.  As I've 
 AH> said, Gitmo is no gulag or concentration camp.  That still doesn't 
 AH> mean we should be doing things like this

 AH> "On a couple of occasions," one agent's e-mail reads, "I entered 
 AH> interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a 
 AH> fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most 
 AH> times they had urinated or defecated on themselves and had been 
 AH> left there for 18, 24 hours or more."

 AH> to our prisoners.  Damn it, why can't you get it through your 
 AH> thick skull that we're supposed better than this, and that's the 
 AH> point Durbin was trying to make?  

Oh, get off your high horse before somebody knocks you off.  Who says we're
supposed to be better than that?  You bleeding heart liberals types?  These
assholes are already being treated with more restraint, more respect, and more
compassion than ANY of our captured American (or coalition) military or
civilian people have been treated.  We already accord these scumbags most of
the provisions of the Geneva Convention when they aren't even entitled to any
of them.  

 JH>> Do you have ANY idea what kind of rage comments like that 
 JH>> engenders in people's minds?  All you guys whine about everybody 
 JH>> getting along, and piss and moan about the mean old US, and all 
 JH>> it does is give our enemies aid and comfort, and emboldens them 
 JH>> to continue their efforts to murder US troops and innocent 
 JH>> civilians to get what they want.

 AH> Horsepiss.  I'm not "whining about getting along."  I'm asking 
 AH> America to live up to our ideals - the ones we're trying to export 
 AH> around the world.  Tough to make other countries buy what we're 
 AH> selling when we don't even live up to what we pitch.  And that's 
 AH> what gets America hated by the people who otherwise wouldn't hate 
 AH> us - the non-Islamists we're trying to reach.  And that's what 
 AH> gets more Americans killed.  

No, where we get in trouble is when we send mixed messages.  We've got the
baddest military in the world.  We can kick anybody's ass anytime, and twice on
Sunday, and everybody knows it.  But we hamstring that military by allowing
bleeding hearts like you to influence how we use it.  We have our civilian
leadership arguing on national TV about whether or not we should be fighting
this war, and making statements calling American soldiers Nazis and worse.

THAT kind of thing is what confuses the rest of the world.  It makes us look
wishy-washy to our allies, and it makes us look weak to our enemies.  Its about
goddamn time you liberals understood that, because we're sick and tired of you
getting us INTO wars by such behavior, or making us LOSE wars that we could
have easily won.

 JH>> Every stinking one of you who supports Durbin by letting him off 
 JH>> the hook is just as bad as the SOB who pulls the trigger of an 
 JH>> AK-47 or pushes the plunger on a suicide bomb in a crowded cafe.  
 JH>> You are killing US personnel and innocent civilians.  You are all 
 JH>> traitors, every goddamn one of you!

 JH>> Does that stick in your craw, Alan?  I hope so.  I hope it causes 
 JH>> you a great deal of discomfort.  

 AH> Doesn't cause me a bit of discomfort, because it's a load of crap. 

Sure it is.  How many new recruits did al Queda get this week because of all
the play the Durbin thing got in Al Jazeira?  How many Syrians or Iranians
sneaked into Iraq to help Zarkawi fight the US?  How many Americans in Iraq, or
Afghanistan or anywhere else for that matter, died this last week because of
what he said?  This was aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war, Alan, and
your weak, piss poor, moronic support of assholes like Durbin and Kennedy and
the rest of that liberal slag heap in Washington are the ones responsible for
it.

You know, our enemies like to call us cowboys, as if that were some kind of
insult that is going to cause us a great deal of pain.  Well, we ought to be
exactly like what they accuse us of.  You probably don't get the point, so I'll
spell it out for you.

Be exactly like John Wayne or Gary Cooper or Jimmy Stewart.  Walk in and kick
some ass, no questions asked, no quarter given.  Everybody knows who the bad
guys are, and what they've done.  Hunt 'em down, fight it out, kill 'em and
then go have a cold beer.  Don't explain, and don't apologize.  (You want a
good example of how to do it?  Watch "Open Range" with Robert Duvall, and Kevin
Costner.  Listen in particular to the speech Duvall makes in the saloon to the
local sheriff.  That's the kind of thing we need to be telling our enemies, and
then back up the words with action.)

That's exactly what we need against these muslim shitbirds who think they have
rights - a big fat dose of frontier style justice.  Of course, that'll never
happen, because you liberal pussies haven't got the stomach for it.


John 

America:  First, Last, and Always!
LIBERALS AND DOGS KEEP OFF THE GRASS!

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