Text 13784, 57 rader
Skriven 2005-06-28 01:09:59 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
     Kommentar till en text av Alan Hess
Ärende: Re: Durbin
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27 Jun 05 15:28, Alan Hess wrote to Ed Connell:

 AH> Whilst masticating on <Jun 26 05>, Ed Connell (1:379/1.6)
 AH> wrote to Alan Hess:

 AH>>> His point was right.  His rhetoric was over the top.  As I've 
 AH>>> said, Gitmo is no gulag or concentration camp.  That still 
 AH>>> doesn't mean we should be doing things like this

 EC>> A point you seem to overlook is that Durbin should not be giving 
 EC>> our deadly enemies psychological ammunition as he did.  You admit 
 EC>> that he was "over the top".  There was a reason for this.  He 
 EC>> wanted to attack.  Bush 

 AH> He's a politician.  We saw over the top rhetoric by conservative 
 AH> politicians during the Schiavo issue.  It's what politicians do 
 AH> when they're trying to get their diatribe on the news and in the 
 AH> paper - overreach for emphasis.  

 EC>> has two main foes.  There are the fundamentalist muslims and the 
 EC>> fundamentalist liberal Democrats. Personally I think it is the 
 EC>> latter who are damaging the country the most.

 AH> The far left is a problem (for example, since we're in Iraq, we 
 AH> can't set a specific date for removing all our troops, as doing so 
 AH> plays into the insurgent's hands, but they want us to.)  So is the 
 AH> right that doesn't see the bad things we do, or sloughs them off 
 AH> by saying our actions aren't as bad as so-and-so's, so they're 
 AH> okay.  Sure, the tortures in our prisons haven't been as bad as 
 AH> tortures in Saddam's prisons, but they're still tortures, and we 
 AH> simply aren't supposed to be torturing people (or sending them out 
 AH> to be tortured elsewhere), however bad they may be.  America is 
 AH> supposed to have standards, and torture of any kind doesn't fit 
 AH> them.

How do I put this delicately?  WE DON'T TORTURE PEOPLE.  WHAT GOES ON AT
GUANTANAMO IS *NOT* TORTURE.  If you continue to post crap like that it only
shows how ignorant you are.  That's why those of us on the right are so damn
incensed when assholes like Durbin and Read, and Hillary and the rest make such
incredibly stupid remarks.  Because what they say gives a huge morale boost and
recruitment boost to the enemy.  It doesn't even matter if what they say is
true or not, the propoganda value for the enemy is worth far more than the
truth.  You liberals never seem to get that.  Its the same garbage you pulled
in Vietnam, like during the Tet Offensive in '68.  We kicked the shit out of
Victor Charles, destroyed the VC as a viable military entity, yet most people
would say we lost Tet because of the way it was portrayed in the media and by
the liberals back here.  You guys are pulling the same stuff in Iraq.  Its
despicable behavior for someone supposed to be an American citizen.


John 

America:  First, Last, and Always!
LIBERALS AND DOGS KEEP OFF THE GRASS!

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