Text 14055, 96 rader
Skriven 2005-07-12 07:46:15 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
  Kommentar till text 14031 av Ed Connell (1:379/1.6)
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11 Jul 05 17:06, Ed Connell wrote to John Hull:

 EC> Hey, John.

 AH>>> Whilst masticating on <Jul 05 05>, Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
 AH>>> wrote to Alan Hess:

 EH>>>>>> I find it rather ironic how they are so quick to claim that
 EH>>>>>> anyone who disagrees with them as hating America. They fail to

 AH>>>>> It appears to me that anyone who disagrees with Bush's policies
 AH>>>>> is labeled as hating America, and it's not the liberals calling
 AH>>>>> them that.

 RC>>>> You evidently dont read the ranting and ravings of the 
 RC>>>> Sakowski..
 RC>>>> <<G>>

 AH>>> He isn't the only American who disagreees with Bush, and not all
 AH>>> of those folks rant and rave.  They're still called 
 AH>>> anti-American. Heck, I have been called that, and I don't rant.

 RC>>>> Anyone who is bitching about Bushes policies without elaborating
 RC>>>> a better alternative, probably does hate america..

 AH>>> I think we shouldn't have invaded Iraq.  I think we should have
 AH>>> stuck to eradicating the Taliban from Afghanistan, and finding 
 AH>>> bin Laden, the man behind the attack on us, instead of going 
 AH>>> after Saddam, who, evil dictator that he was, was no threat to us.  
 AH>>> But that's water over the dam now - we are in Iraq, so we can't 
 AH>>> just say "we're leaving on such-and-such day."  I agree with Bush 
 AH>>> on that.

 JH>> 20/20 hindsight.  The reason you get taken to task is you still 
 JH>> can't seem to understand that we are after ALL terrorists, not just 
 JH>> the one SOB that attacked us.  The whole region is affected by 
 JH>> eliminating Saddam's regime, and goes a long way toward denying the 
 JH>> terrorists the ability to operate at all.  That's the trouble with 
 JH>> liberals.  You never want to do the dirty work required to cure the 
 JH>> damn problem, instead just slap a bandaid on it and say its a wrap.  
 JH>> And you're always mystified and bewildered when the bad guys come 
 JH>> back and bite us again.

 RC>>>> What about those who berated Clinton at every turn, I cant
 RC>>>> remember what the Clinton supporters were calling them?

 AH>>> As I said, politics has disintegrated to the point where
 AH>>> disagreeing with or disliking the president and administration is
 AH>>> labeled anti-American or worse.  It's ridiculous - our most
 AH>>> important freedom may be the right to criticize the government,
 AH>>> and doing so is not anti-American when you believe the leadership
 AH>>> is wrong.

 AH>>>>> So, it seems that the label of "America hater," like the label
 AH>>>>> of "Nazi," is just a convenient name for anyone on any part of
 AH>>>>> the political spectrum to call people who disagree with the
 AH>>>>> policies that person supports.  *adh*

 JH>> Conservatives, historically, don't do things the way the liberals 
 JH>> do. Taking someone to task for what they've said and done 
 JH>> politically is not attacking them on a personal level.  Judging 
 JH>> someone on their political record is legitimate, regardless of what 
 JH>> party they belong to.  Demonizing someone just because they 
 JH>> disagree with you politically, however, is the favorite tactic of 
 JH>> the left.  So don't complain if you get branded as anti-american 
 JH>> when you have just gotten done calling someone a Nazi and an 
 JH>> extremist just because they disagree with you on how to fix Social 
 JH>> Security (or any other subject).

 RC>>>> I have observed that some on the left side of the fence arent
 RC>>>> very keen on people showing their patriotism, they act 
 RC>>>> embarassed if someone displays a american flag.

 AH>>> I haven't noticed that, but you probably get around more than I
 AH>>> do.  *adh*

 JH>> Then you haven't been paying attention to the news.

 EC> It should be noted that the people our troops are fighting in Iraq 
 EC> are mostly the very ones that Alan says we should have consentrated 
 EC> on.  We went to Iraq, and they consentrated there.  Saddam's ouster and 
 EC> the freeing of the Iraqis is a pleasant side-effect.

That's exactly right.  Even the Iraqi people who don't want us there and are
complaining about the foreigners who are coming in and blowing up their country
realize they still need us.  Alan complains about being lumped in with liberals
all the time.  He apparently hasn't figured out that if you lay down with dogs
you're gonna get fleas.  

John 

America:  First, Last, and Always!
LIBERALS AND DOGS KEEP OFF THE GRASS!

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