Text 14512, 58 rader
Skriven 2005-08-09 23:01:26 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 14511 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: atomic bomb question
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Ross Cassell -> LEE LOFASO wrote:
 RC> Hello LEE!

 RC> 09 Aug 05 11:04, you wrote to me:

 LL>>>> The Japanese high command had offered to surrender a full month
 LL>>>> before mass murderer Harry S Truman ordered atomic bombs to be
 LL>>>> dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 RC>>> Prove it..

 LL>> "Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan",
 LL>> by Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, a professor of history at the University of
 LL>> California, Santa Barbara.

 LL>> Professor Hasegawa notes the Japanese offered to surrender toward
 LL>> the end of July 1945, but that offer was rejected by Harry S Truman
 LL>> as an excuse to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Truman's
 LL>> argument being he insisted on an "unconditional" surrender.

 RC> There you have it, unconditional surrender was the terms we would accept..

 RC> Japan dictated on their terms the start of the war, we dictated how it
 RC> would end, which included the dismantling of their military, sovereignty
 RC> returned to conquered territories and a revised government.

 RC> Thanks for jogging my memory, I do recall (from historical accounts) the
 RC> Japanese preferring to surrender to us as opposed to Stalin, whose
 RC> forces at that time had made piece meal of japanese troops in manchuria.
 RC> However they didnt want to surrender unconditionally.

 RC> Too bad..

 RC> In the end, the Japanese did awaken the slumbering giant and the got
 RC> more than they bargained for.

 RC> Now that the Japanese knew we werent gonna accept anything but a
 RC> unconditional surrender, they were gonna fight like madman, like they
 RC> did at Iwo Jima, Tarrawa and Okinawa. All things considered a
 RC> conditional surrender would be unacceptable. The war with japan wasnt no
 RC> police action, was no simple border dispute, get over it.

 RC> All you have to know is that we disagree on Trumans solution, I agree
 RC> with it, you do not, neither of us can change what is done, get it?

 RC> Now explain the attempted Coup on Hirohito?

If memory serves, that coup was foiled mere minutes and a few yards from
success.  The officers involved ended up either being executed or committing
sepaku.  To doubt that the Japanese people would have followed through to the
death of the last man, woman, and child if ordered to do so in defense of
Nippon is to deny the 2000 years of their history and culture.

People like Lee are the price we have to pay in order to live in a free
country.

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