Text 15360, 70 rader
Skriven 2005-09-16 12:46:59 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 15351 av Darryl Perry (1:106/324)
Ärende: One Thing I've Learne
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Darryl Perry -> John Hull wrote:
 DP> On 09-15-05, John Hull said...

 JH>> Darryl Perry -> VERN HUMPHREY wrote:
 DP>>> On 09-15-05, VERN HUMPHREY said...

 DP>>>>>>>> events, be they natural or by human intervention.  This
 DP>>>>>>>> administration rose to power on the back of 9/11 and
 DP>>> the so

 SH>>>>>>> Say what?

 VH>>>>>> You didn't know that Bush won the elections of 2000 based on
 DP>>> what
 VH>>>>>> happened on 9/11/01?

 DP>>>>> Well if that's true, then it's news to me.  However that is not
 DP>>> what I
 VH>>>> said.

 VH>>>> Yeah, it is -- I left your very words quoted above. :-)

 DP>>> Ah, I see where you are confused.  You assume that the current
 DP>>> administration was at the hight of it's power on the day that
 DP> GWB too
 JH>> the
 DP>>> oath of office.  The current administration made big political
 DP> hay wi
 DP>>> those attacks.  Witness the fact that every speech GWB links his
 DP>>> administration with the WoT.  Could he have achieved reelection
 DP> witho
 JH>> it?
 DP>>> He barely made reelection WITH the WoT.  51% does not a mandate
 DP> make.

 JH>> First, the war was still going on, so it was already in the mix.
 DP> The only
 JH>> political hay being made was the Democrats trying to burn down the
 DP> hay fie

 DP> It makes no difference whether the war was going on or not.  That's a
 DP> diversion.  And if you don't think that Millers Spitball reference during
 DP> the RNC convention was an attempt to link the attacks of 9/11 and WoT to
 DP> the
 DP> candidates, then you are in denial.

 JH>> As far as mandates go, 51% is a hell of a lot more of a mandate than
 DP> 43%,
 JH>> which is the best Clinton ever got.  In any case, the electoral
 DP> college is
 JH>> what determines the winner, NOT the popular vote.  Bush had that
 DP> locked u

 DP> Certainly Bush got the electorial college, that's the way the electorial
 DP> process is constructed.  Howevere, do you believe that Bush was talking
 DP> about the electorial college when he made that comment about it being a
 DP> mandate?

 DP> Clinton got 6% more than Bush in 1992.
 DP> Clinton got 9% more than Dole in 1996.
 DP> Gore got 0.5% more than Bush in 2000.
 DP> Bush got 3% more then Kerry in 2004.

 DP> None of that translates into a 'mandate by the people' to me.

Not my problem.  The only mandate I care about is the one that said 'Bush Wins
Election' - anything else is irrelevant.

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