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Skriven 2004-09-01 08:04:59 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 1650 av JOHN MASSEY (1:123/140)
Ärende: SWIFT BOATERS IGNORE BUSH
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31 Aug 04 20:48, JOHN MASSEY wrote to GARY MOORE:

 GM>> We'd still be on the losing end of all of this. 

 JM> As a Liberterian I agree with you.

 GM>> The Democrats will
 GM>> vote for Kerry because they don't like Bush.  They want Bush out.
 GM>> Kerry wasn't a good enough choice, but now he's the only choice 
 GM>> for those who want to see Bush gone.

 JM> Well I agree that Kerrywas not the best choice for the Dems.


 GM>>No matter who wins, the country
 GM>>will  continue to be divided, almost in half, just as we have been.

 JM> That's a safe bet.

 GM>>Bush  will not have the kind of broad consensus needed to move this
 GM>>nation  forward.  Nor would Kerry.  And the problems that we should
 GM>>be  addressing in national debates will still be plaguing us.

 JM> I agree with that.  

I don't.  You'd be hard put to find a broader concensus - a wider tent - than
John McCain, Ed Koch, Rudi Giuliani, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Zell Miller, and
the wives of the 9/11 pilots.  The covers virtually the entire political
spectrum except for the far left.  Zell Miller is giving the keynote speech for
god's sake!

 GM>> I think the United States is capable of producing better leaders 
 GM>> and I'm sorry they're not up for election to the office of 
 GM>> President.

 JM> Yep, but a smart person would not want the job. 


 GM>> But you go on talking about Vietnam and how easy it is to score
 GM>> Purple Hearts.  Just know that you're not doing this country any
 GM>> great service.

 JM> I haven't said it was easy to get a PH. I have said that to receive three 
 JM> of them, in less than 4 months, all with apparently not a single stitch, 
 JM> and no time lost from duty, seems a little wrong. I'm not so naive as to 
 JM> think that a young man from a prominent family, with political ambitions 
 JM> would not do anything to get those medals, even if he had to stretch the 
 JM> truth. There are legitimate questions that need to be answered about 
 JM> every one of John Kerry's medals. 

 JM> The letter of the law makes a band aide PH legit, so by the letter 
 JM> of the law Kerry was awarded his PH's.

The letter of the law doesn't know that false action reports were filed.  PH's
don't get an automatic verification review like the Medal of Honor.

 JM> What I question, having seen worse injuries not even reported, or 
 JM> PH's turned down, is what kind of man would/could be so low, so much of 
 JM> a coward that he would accept that medal knowing that he just got a 
 JM> scratch, when compared to others. 

Kerry was never wounded in my opinion.  A scratch is not a wound, regardless of
how he got it.  

 JM> Now that the former Sec. of the Navy has said that he didn't sign 
 JM> and that he didn't write the "New Citation" written just as Kerry 
 JM> became a Senator, makes me want to know just who did and why.

Same here.  I wonder who he paid off to slip that record into the file?

 JM> Bush doesn't get a pass eitner.  I was outraged that he called for 
 JM> a ban all 527's. That's not the actions of a pro first amendment 
 JM> president.

 JM> Isn't it strange that the one thing Kerry and Bush agree on is 
 JM> Americans should not have the freedom of speech.

Hold on a second, John.  Bush is right, but not for the same reason as the
Dems.  The Democrats want to stop them (they SAY they do, but they really
don't) only because Republicans have them too.  After all, nearly 90% of the
money came from rich liberals and was spent to trash Bush.

Bush wants to stop them because they are a giant gaping hole in the fence that
allows foreign influences to tinker with our election process.  Since that
money is virtually unregulated, any outside source antithetical to the US could
feed it to a group fronting for their interests.  The Red Chinese for example,
tried to buy off Clinton several times, and got caught at it because of
campaign finance reporting requirements.  With 527s, there is no such
protection.

I have no problem with the groups presenting their views, but the same sort of
protections have to be in place as in regular campaign groups to prevent
outside influences from interfering with our elections.

John 

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