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Skriven 2006-10-01 07:07:18 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 23154 av MIMI GALLANDT (1:275/311)
Ärende: Habeas Corpus
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MIMI GALLANDT -> JOHN HULL wrote:
 MG> John Hull wrote:

 JH>> EARL CROASMUN -> John Hull wrote:
 JH>>>>> what a terrorist is, just as I do, and playing Clintonesque
 JH>> word  EC> games
 JH>>>>> doesn't change that.  Terrorists do not have any rights.
 JH>>>>> Terrorists ought to put up against the wall and shot out of
 JH>>>>> hand.


 GB>>>> I would rather they be interrogated first.

 ->>>> OK, interrogate them and THEN shoot them.

 EC>>> It is one thing to put terrorists up against the wall and shoot
 EC>>> It is them. a far different thing to shoot people ACCUSED of
 EC>>> being terrorists or people SUSPECTED of being terrorists.  One
 EC>>> of the functions of legal rights is to create more confidence
 EC>>> that the GUILTY are punished while the INNOCENT are not.

 JH>> I understand that, and I'm not advocating anything different.  If
 JH>> they are arrested inside the US by the FBI, or some other law
 JH>> enforcement agency, they automatically get Constitutional rights.
 JH>> captured I'm talking about those who are on the battlefield directly
 JH>> captured bearing arms against US forces, or are in a combat zone in
 JH>> possession of war material (weapons, explosives, combat maps, etc.).

 MG> Isn't that what we all were talking about? I thought it was understood.

No, actually it isn't understood.  We don't deal nearly harshly enough with
captured terrorists.  There are far too many who would force even the military
to handle such people as if they were some burglary suspect rather than a
terrorist.  Complete with Miranda rights, a cot and three hots, trial rights,
etc., just like real citizens.  I don't mean just here inside the US either,
but they would extent that same privilege to wartime battlefields.  I've heard
people say it with my own ears, and its been reported on the news as well.

We have an obligation to our troops to make sure that we handle our enemies at
least as harshly as they handle our men when they're captured.  Force and power
is the only thing those people respect.  By giving them ANY kind of rights we
make ourselves appear weak and afraid.  They consider us to be women.  Given
the way they treat their own mothers and sisters, that doesn't help us.  By
giving notice that terrorists will receive no mercy, and following through, we
put them on notice that there is a heavy price to pay for daring to harm our
troops. They don't have enough men to continue that kind of attrition for very
long, nor does it help their recruiting efforts.

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