Text 23569, 74 rader
Skriven 2006-10-05 19:45:27 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 23567 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Habeas Corpus
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John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH> Gary Braswell -> Stan Hardegree wrote:
 GB>> Stan Hardegree -> MIMI GALLANDT wrote:
 VH>>>> How did the Israelis stop it?  They armed the teachers.

 SH>>>> Something I have editorialized for over the years.

 MG>>>> I agree with both of you that would solve the problem, but I stand
 SH>>> by my
 MG>>>> comment that the moonbats will never allow it.

 SH>>> Some of my readers went nuts in opposition to the idea.  One of my
 JH> own
 SH>>> columnists wrote a piece in direct opposition to the idea.  Funny
 GB>> thing is
 SH>>> that none of them were teachers.

 GB>> Since there is compulsory service in Israel, I would imagine most
 JH> of the
 GB>> armed teachers had experience with weapons.

 GB>> I know many teachers I would not want armed.

 GB>> I have asked several if they would want to be armed in school and they
 GB>> all said no, including one lady who knows how to shoot and is getting
 GB>> her concealed license, along with her husband, soon. Her husband is a
 GB>> prof at a local university and he probably headed off an incident
 JH> there.
 GB>> He heard about a student the others nicknamed "AK" and his initials
 JH> were
 GB>> not AK. He heard the student in his class talk about getting an AK and
 GB>> shooting several teachers. He reported it. He is getting mental
 GB>> assistance now. He was trying to buy an AK.

 GB>> I realize its anecdotal.

 GB>> I think a more realistic solution is a trained and armed security
 JH> force.
 GB>> Of course that would cost money. But then so would training and arming
 GB>> teachers.

 GB>> I think part of the blame lies at the increasing tabloid nature of the
 GB>> media, especially cable news which is hungry for filler. Obviously the
 GB>> news has to cover these events, but there does not have to be
 GB>> wall-to-wall, days of coverage of every nuance and rumor with full
 GB>> camera coverage.

 GB>> It like live broadcast porn for these types.

 GB>> And to be honest, few of these events take place compared to how many
 GB>> schools are open and have classes each day.

 JH> It goes far beyond the media, Gary.  A basic fundamental truth is that

As I said, the media is part of the blame.

 JH> people who are armed and well versed in the use of arms do not make good
 JH> subjects for those who want everybody to depend on the government for
 JH> everything from cradle to grave.  You can't intimidate people into doing
 JH> what you want them to do when they have the means to defend themselves
 JH> and to say no.  The anti-gunners have been trying to gain power over
 JH> people ever since they enacted laws in New York to keep the poor
 JH> immigrants from being able to stand up to the corrupt landlords and
 JH> politicians.  Gun control, welfare, and taxes are the three legs of the
 JH> liberal triad, and they will do and say anything to press those goals.

The wife and husband I mention above who have guns and are getting their
conceal carry permits are both liberal.

The sweeping generalizations of liberals on this echo are only rivaled by the
sweeping generalizations of conservatives.

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