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Text 2369, 135 rader
Skriven 2004-09-18 16:44:52 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
     Kommentar till en text av Bob Sakowski
Ärende: Medals
==============
* Forwarded from ALL-POLITICS by John Hull (1:379/1.99).
* Originally by: John Hull (1:379/1.99), 18 Sep 04 16:34.
* Originally to: BOB SAKOWSKI (1:123/140).

---------- Forwarded message ----------

18 Sep 04 07:12, BOB SAKOWSKI wrote to JOHN HULL:


 BS> FYI

 BS> Found at:  http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040918/D855P5QG0.html

 BS> Sep 17, 9:44 PM (ET)

 BS> By ROBERT BURNS

 BS> Google sponsored links
 BS> British War Medals - Bargain Priced British War Medals On Sale at 
 BS> eBay!
 BS> (aff)
 BS> www.ebay.com

 BS> Purple heart medals - Ideal place for Purple Heart Medals and 
 BS> other
 BS> military products
 BS> http://www.soldiercity.com/

Big deal.  I bought a couple of the medals to replace some that were lost in a
cross country move.  Got 'em at 7 Seas in downtown San Diego years ago.  So
what?  That isn't the issue, and never was.


 BS> WASHINGTON (AP) - The Navy's chief investigator concluded Friday 
 BS> that
 BS> procedures were followed properly in the approval of Sen. John 
 BS> Kerry's
 BS> Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals, according to an 
 BS> internal
 BS> Navy memo.

 BS> Vice Adm. R.A. Route, the Navy inspector general, conducted the 
 BS> review of
 BS> Kerry's Vietnam-ear military service awards at the request of 
 BS> Judicial
 BS> Watch, a public interest group. The group has also asked for the 
 BS> release of
 BS> additional records documenting the Democratic presidential 
 BS> candidate's
 BS> military service.

 BS> Judicial Watch had requested in August that the Navy open an 
 BS> investigation
 BS> of the matter, but Route said in an internal memo obtained by The
 BS> Associated Press that he saw no reason for a full-scale probe.

 BS> "Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the 
 BS> Silver
 BS> Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards 
 BS> approval
 BS> process was properly followed," Route wrote in the memo sent 
 BS> Friday to Navy
 BS> Secretary Gordon England.

 BS> "In particular, the senior officers who awarded the medals were 
 BS> properly
 BS> delegated authority to do so. In addition, we found that they 
 BS> correctly
 BS> followed the procedures in place at the time for approving these 
 BS> awards."

 BS> Some veterans have challenged Kerry's version of the circumstances
 BS> surrounding the incident that led to his Silver Star award for 
 BS> battlefield
 BS> heroism, as well as his three Purple Heart medals.

 BS> The Silver Star was awarded for his actions in pursuit of enemy 
 BS> forces
 BS> while commander of swift boat unit PCF-94 in Vietnam in February 
 BS> 1969.

 BS> Judicial Watch also asked the Navy inspector general to 
 BS> investigate Kerry's
 BS> anti-war activities after he returned from Vietnam and left active 
 BS> duty.

 BS> Route concluded that there was no justification for looking 
 BS> further into
 BS> the decisions to award the medals or the anti-war activities.

 BS> "Conducting any additional review regarding events that took place 
 BS> over 30
 BS> years ago would not be productive," he wrote. "The passage of time 
 BS> would
 BS> make reconstruction of the facts and circumstances unreliable, and 
 BS> would
 BS> not allow the information gathered to be considered in the context 
 BS> of the
 BS> time in which the events took place.

 BS> "Our review also considered the fact that Senator Kerry's 
 BS> post-active duty
 BS> activities were public and that military and civilian officials 
 BS> were aware
 BS> of his actions at the time. For these reasons, I have determined 
 BS> that
 BS> Senator Kerry's awards were properly approved and will take no 
 BS> further
 BS> action in this matter."

You don't get it, do you, Sakowski?  It isn't the procedure used to approve and
award medals that is in question here, and you damn well know it.  What IS in
question is whether or not Kerry is actually entitled to them; and whether or
not the reports filed to GET those medals were fraudulent or not.  A very large
number of people who were there say they were obtained under false pretenses,
that Kerry didn't actually do what he put down in those reports as having done.

I don't know about you, but I've got more personal honor and self-respect than
to put in for a medal of valor that I didn't really earn, and nothing but
contempt and scorn for ANY cheap shit son-of-a-bitch who does.

I will also remind you that none of the above addresses the questions about his
discharge and why he didn't get it until nearly 30 years after the fact.


John 

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