Text 23737, 102 rader
Skriven 2006-10-11 09:34:54 av Bob Sakowski (1:275/311)
     Kommentar till en text av John Hull
Ärende: Re: North Korea
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John Hull wrote:

> Bob Sakowski -> John Hull wrote:
>  BS> John Hull wrote:
> 
>  >> Not only are you an apologist for the left, you don't even
>  >> know the history of the point you try to use to attack Bush.
> 
>  BS> History lesson.
> 
>  BS> John McCain seems to have some difficulties with physics and the
>  BS> historical record in his attempt to blame Bill Clinton for the
>  latest BS> crisis on the Korean Peninsula.
> 
>  BS> Said the Arizona Senator: "I would remind Senator (Hillary)
>  Clinton and BS> other critics of the Bush administration policies
>  that the framework BS> agreement of the Clinton administration was a
>  failure."
> 
>  BS> Some basic facts.
> 
>  BS> The 1994 crisis came about because the North Koreans were
>  producing BS> weapons-grade plutonium. Under the Agreed Framework,
>  they agreed to BS> shutter the plutonium production facility and put
>  the already produced BS> plutonium under international oversight.
> 
>  BS> In return, the US promised aide, help building lightwater
>  reactors BS> (which don't help with bombs) and diplomatic
>  normalization.
> 
>  BS> That agreement kept the plutonium operation on ice until the end
>  of BS> 2002.
> 
>  BS> President Bush came to office wanting to pull out of the
>  agreement and BS> did so when evidence surfaced suggesting that the
>  North Koreans were BS> secretly trying to enrich uranium (a separate
>  path to the bomb).
> 
>  BS> The bomb that went off yesterday was made with plutonium, the
>  same stuff BS> that was off-limits from 1994-2002. In all likelihood
>  some of the same BS> stuff that was on ice from 1994-2002.
> 
>  BS> To the best of my knowledge, no one thinks the North Koreans are
>  close BS> to having enough uranium to make a nuclear weapon that way.
>  And it's BS> not even completely they were ever trying to enrich
>  uranium.
> 
>  BS> So Clinton strikes deal to keep plutonium out of the North
>  Koreans' BS> hands. The deal keeps the plutonium out of reach for the
>  last six years BS> of Clinton's term and the first two of Bush's.
>  Bush pulls out of the BS> deal. Four years later a plutonium bomb
>  explodes.
> 
>  BS> Clinton's fault, right?
> 
>  BS> There's certainly an argument to be made that you don't make
>  agreements BS> with parties you don't trust, like the North Koreans.
>  And perhaps BS> President Bush would have had some leg to stand on if
>  he'd pulled out BS> of the Agreed Framework and replaced it with
>  something better -- either BS> force or a better agreement. But he
>  didn't. He just did nothing for BS> four years. Now we have
>  plutonium, probably uranium and actual bombs. BS> And according to
>  McCain, it's all Bill Clinton's fault.
> 
>  BS> (ed.note: As a somewhat separate matter, there is legitimate
>  debate BS> about who was more responsible for the breakdown of the
>  Agreed BS> Framework. Neither side lived up to what it had promised.
>  But that's BS> another story. The key though is what exploded Sunday
>  night.) BS> [end]
>  BS> http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010308.php
> 
>  BS> You're welcome.
> 
>  BS> Bush screwed, and continues to screw, the pooch.
> 
>  BS> Worst president, ever.  Worst administration, ever.  Most corrupt
>  BS> administration, ever.
> 
>  BS> Must make you proud, John.
> 
> Right, I'm gonna take your word and what some leftwing blog says over
> virtually
> every analyst who came on TV and radio to talk about it. Sure, Bob. 
> In your freakin' dreams.

"Virtually every analyst" John?  Name one CREDIBLE "analyst" and by
CREDIBLE I mean someone whose credentials can be examined.

What, no name?  Thought so.

Seems you are the one having dreams John...  be careful that they don't
escalate into nightmares on November 7.


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