Text 23850, 60 rader
Skriven 2006-10-14 19:25:33 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 23826 av VERN HUMPHREY (1:123/140)
Ärende: Muslems
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VERN HUMPHREY -> JOHN HULL wrote:
 VH>>> Yes.  We are at war with terrorists, who happen to use Islam as
 VH>>> justification of their murderous acts, just as Hitler used
 VH> racial purit
 VH>>> as justification for his.

 JH>> The war against Hitler (and the Japs) was not based on religion.
 VH> Therefore i
 JH>> doesn't matter one iota what anyone's religion was.  THIS war is
 VH> entirely ba
 JH>> on Islam, and the teachings of a militant sect that has been
 VH> preaching death
 JH>> all non-muslims for at least 150 years.

 VH> In point of fact, Bushido is a religion, and was the basis of the
 VH> Japanese warrior ethic and their expansionist tendencies.


 JH>> And I don't buy that nonsense about Islam being a religion of peace.
 VH> I've re
 JH>> enough of the Koran to know that is a lot of hogwash.  Even when it
 VH> isn't
 JH>> outright advocating killing of infidels, it's advocating making them
 VH> into wh
 JH>> are essentially slaves to it.  While it's true that only a few
 VH> percent of
 JH>> muslims are actual terrorists, the rest have done nothing to change
 VH> either t
 JH>> crap that is taught in their schools, to denounce terrorism, or
 VH> anything els
 JH>> that might help shut down the fanatics like bin Laden.  Nor does it
 VH> stop the
 JH>> from cheering whenever somebody blows up an American building, etc.

 VH> Enough muslims have died trying to change what the terrorists are doing
 VH> to fill a very large graveyard.


 JH>> Sorry, Vern, but you're being naive.  You can't even trust the
 JH>> ones born in US as we found out yesterday.

 VH> That's what they said about the Neisi.


Not the same thing at all, Vern, and you know it.  Bushido may have been a
Shinto based warrior sect, but not everybody was Samurai.  In any case, the
military was a uniformed force, not terrorists, and the main population didn't
believe in a religion that advocated killing everyone who wasn't part of that
religion.

As far as the Nisei go, considering the way Pearl Harbor played out, the
reaction of the US government was understandable, even if overdone.  The Nisei
still had to prove themselves, which they did with high honor. But again, we're
talking about uniformed forces, not terrorists.

The current conflict IS about religion; our, theirs, and the Jews.  If somebody
has to die over religion, it damn sure isn't going to be me or mine.

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