Text 25385, 239 rader
Skriven 2006-11-22 00:42:52 av Mimi Gallandt (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 25378 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Election
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Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG>> Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH>>> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG>>>> Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH>>>>> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG>>>>>> Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH>>>>>>> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG>>>>>>>> Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH>>>>>>>>> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 TA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the weather permits you might enjoy the medorite
 MG>> shower
 EH>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow
 TA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evening.

 EH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It won't happen here, we are getting storm after storm
 EH>>>>> rolling
 EH>>>>>>>>>>> in. I
 EH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have all but forgot what the night sky looks like without
 MG>>>>>> cloud
 MG>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover. :-\

 EH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed

 MG>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose that I shouldn't mention that it's still 65 and
 EH>>>>>>>>>>> beautifully
 MG>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear then, eh? That would probably be in poor taste on my
 MG>>>>>>>>>> part.  :)

 EH>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is in poor taste. :-)

 EH>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's 45 and wet (dark too) here at the moment.

 EH>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed

 MG>>>>>>>>>>>> Poor baby. Desktop weather says it's 54 and fair here now. I
 MG>>>>>>>> haven't
 MG>>>>>>>>>>>> been out yet so I'll believe it when I do go out. :)

 EH>>>>>>>>>>> My weather applet on my desktop says it's 50 and rainy
 EH> here at
 EH>>>>> the
 EH>>>>>>>>>>> moment. Looking outside, it looks wet.

 EH>>>>>>>>>>> Ed

 MG>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't have wanted to be here today, it got up to 90. I
 EH>>>>> don't
 MG>>>>>>>>>> really mind hot weather, but I hate hot days with chilly damp
 EH>>>>>>> nights,
 MG>>>>>>>>>> plays hell with the sinuses.  :)

 EH>>>>>>>>> I am not a hot weather type of person. During the summer it
 EH> gets
 EH>>>>>>> close
 EH>>>>>>>>> to 90 (even over 90) and I stay inside as much as possible with
 MG>>>>>> my AC
 EH>>>>>>>>> and fans.

 EH>>>>>>>>> As much as I am not a cold-wet-and-dark type person, either, I
 EH>>>>> still
 EH>>>>>>>>> prefer actually having 4 distinct seasons during the year.

 EH>>>>>>>>> Ed

 MG>>>>>>>> We have four seasons, it's just that all four of them are
 MG>> good. :)

 EH>>>>>>> Yeah, your 4 seasons are warm, hot, warm, and warm. ;-)

 EH>>>>>>> Ed

 MG>>>>>> and the problem with that is?

 EH>>>>> Seeing Santa ringing a bell in front of Safeway in 80+ temps and
 EH>>>>> sunshine is a bit odd.

 MG>>>> Fear not; Vons, Ralphs and Albertsons have bought or run out of
 EH>>> town all
 MG>>>> the old Safeways. :)  It very, very rarely gets into the 80s during
 MG>>>> December, it hovers between the 50s at night and the low 70s in the
 EH>>> day.

 EH>>> Wow! I remember a Safeway being not too far from where my Aunt and
 MG>> Uncle
 EH>>> lived. Of course, that was over 30 years ago.

 MG>>>>>> Our trees leaves turn colors and fall off,
 MG>>>>>> it just stays warm while they're doing it.

 EH>>>>> We have green trees even in winter. They're called evergreens. ;-)

 MG>>>> It's funny that most people thing that palm trees are indigenous to
 MG>>>> California (they're not) the actual indigenous ones are oaks and
 EH>>> pines,

 EH>>> Yes, I know. The ubiquitous Southern California palm is a recent
 MG>> imigrant.

 MG>>>> in fact the only place Torey pines are indigenous is San Diego
 MG>> county.

 EH>>> Yep. My mother tried to grow one up here. It grew very slowly and
 MG>> almost
 EH>>> died. Fortunately it we planted it between our house and the
 MG>> neighbor to
 EH>>> the west, so it was sheltered from the cold winter winds.

 MG>>>> Did you know that the Spanish brought palm trees here (North
 MG>> America)?

 EH>>> Not all fo them. ;-)

 MG>>>>>> If an overwhelming need to
 MG>>>>>> see snow over comes us we can always go to Julian (a gold rush
 MG>>>> town in
 MG>>>>>> NE SD county),

 EH>>>>> We get very little snow in the lower elevations.

 MG>>>> Neither do we, but you have more elevated places than we do. :)
 MG>> Having

 EH>>> Mountain Rainier is only 70 miles from here. The Sound is only 5
 EH> miles
 EH>>> from here.

 MG>>>> seen the Rocky Mountains from both sides of the Eisenhower Tunnel
 MG>> pass
 MG>>>> California is really lacking in the mountain department. Shasta is
 EH>>> very
 MG>>>> nice and the Sierras are beautiful, but along the coast here we have
 MG>>>> hills that people who don't know any better call "mountains" :)

 EH>>> That's like when I was in Pheonix all those years ago. Camel Back
 EH>>> "mountain" was a joke. You could drive up to the top in less than 5
 EH>>> minutes.

 MG>>>>>> I'll admit that no such need has ever overwhelmed me

 EH>>>>> I'm with you, leave the snow in the mountains. :-)

 MG>>>>>> (I've never understood the nostalgia associated with needing to
 EH> put
 EH>>>>> your
 MG>>>>>> car to bed with an electric blanket so it'll start the next day
 EH> and
 EH>>>>> then

 EH>>>>> They do that in Alaska, not here.

 MG>>>> We did it at NTC Great Lakes and they do it in Montana as well. :)

 EH>>> Oh yeah, Montana is colder than here.

 MG>>>>>> needing to shovel the driveway just in time for the snow plows to
 MG>>>> push

 EH>>>>> I have only shoveled snow off my driveway once. That was 30+ years
 MG>>>> ago.

 MG>>>> I have never shoveled snow here.

 EH>>> LOL!

 MG>>>>>> it right back in). We generally get 6 weeks of rain a year which
 MG>>>>>> invariably reminds locals why it's a bad idea to build three major
 MG>>>>>> shopping centers and numerous hotels in a riverbed! The rain
 MG>> usually
 MG>>>>>> comes during the whole month of Feb and either the last 2 weeks of
 MG>>>> Jan
 MG>>>>>> or the first 2 of March. There are also those 2 weeks of hell in
 EH>>>>> either
 MG>>>>>> September or October that we call the Santa Anas in which the wind
 EH>>>>> that
 MG>>>>>> usually flows from the ocean on to us turns around and blows from
 EH>>> the
 MG>>>>>> desert on to us. (Tim no doubt fares worse under them than we
 EH> along
 EH>>>>> the
 MG>>>>>> coast do) :)


 EH>>>>> We don't get Santa Anas around here. ;-)

 MG>>>> You must get the Chinooks in winter, but you probably welcome them
 EH>>> then. :)


 EH>>> Yep, the Chinooks are welcome winds most of the time.

 EH>>> We just had a lot of flooding north and east of here. Where I live
 MG>> there
 EH>>> is no real chance of flooding.

 EH>>> The main reason for the flooding was unseasonally warm weather and
 MG>> more
 EH>>> rain than usual.

 EH>>> Ed

 MG>> I'm very happy to hear you didn't get flooded. :)

 EH> Thanks. The main reason I didn't get flooded is that I bought a house
 EH> well away from any flood plane. On the news, most of the damage was to
 EH> houses built right on the banks of rivers. One of the shots they showed
 EH> repeatedly was of a house some guy had just finished building. It was a
 EH> very large house -- about 4000+ sq. ft. -- and he had built it only a
 EH> few feet from the bank of a river. The name of the river is "Raging
River."

 EH> You'd think that with a name like that the guy would have built the
 EH> house a few hundred yards farther away from the bank.

 EH> Ed

One would think that someone who has enough money to build a very large house
would be bright enough not to build in a flood plane, but you'd think that
someone with enough money to build (or buy) a house on the cliffs over Malibu
would be smart enough not to. Nearly every year for about a decade the rains
would wash away a little more of the cliffs and those houses would slide down
or there was a drought and the houses burned down, but they keep building back
there anyway. In an effort to attempt to bring this conversation somewhat
closer to being on topic; shouldn't there be laws about not being allowed to
build houses in unsafe areas like on crumbling cliffs and in flood planes?

-- 
L'Chaim

Mimi

In the beginning
the Word already was.

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