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Skriven 2006-12-01 18:58:00 av JIM HOLSONBACK (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av VERN HUMPHREY
Ärende: Nativity Movie Banned
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Hello, Vern.

-=> On 11-30-06 10:00 VERN HUMPHREY wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=-
<  >
 VH> There is no question that there is a powerful movement in this country
 VH> to trivialize and marginalize all religious people.

From my experience with the Fido-secularists, if you get into a
discussion with them over this, they will indicate that they are all for
the Constitutionally-protected right to "free exercise" of religion,
but only as long as it is invisible, inaudible, un-readable and
otherwise un-detectable to them. IOWs, exercised in secret, behind
closed doors.

 VH> Could it be because they have  this thing about "morality?"

I think that has a good bit to do with it, but certainly not all.
Engage the secularizers in discussion of the desirability of late term
abortions or gay marriage, and you will shortly be accused of
being a religious fanatic who is trying to establish an unconsitutional
theocracy.

Meanwhile, even Santa is under attack - -

-Santa Claus Deemed Too 'Religious' for School Fundraiser
-By Randy Hall
-CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
-November 30, 2006

-(CNSNews.com) - A Christmas-themed event to raise money at a public
-elementary school in Warwick, N.Y., has been altered to accommodate a
-parent's complaints that the program would illegally spotlight a
-"religious" figure - Santa Claus.

-"Breakfast With Santa" has since been changed to "Winter Wonderland
-Breakfast, and -- in an effort to be inclusive of all beliefs -- the
-bearded one will now be joined at the Dec. 9 event by Frosty the
-Snowman.

-Organizers made the changes after one parent charged that she and others
-in the community were offended that the Parent Teacher Association at
-the Sanfordville Elementary School was sponsoring a program geared
-toward one religion.

-That parent, who did not wish to have her name used, wrote a letter to
-the school board asserting that Santa represents Christmas -- a
-Christian holiday and by law, a public school is not allowed to promote
-religion.

-According to the Warwick Advertiser, the PTA offered to include Hanukkah
-traditions in the event, but the parent said she felt this still wasn't
-fair because it included religious activities.

-"I look forward to sponsoring an event that is within the law and
-inclusive of all," the parent wrote in a letter to the school
-superintendent, Dr. Frank Greenhall. "This is not an argument about
-religion; it is about the law of our land. Discrimination is simply
-detestable."

-Greenhall then contacted an attorney, who advised him in a letter that
-the district "should, at a minimum, modify the events to avoid
-potential litigation."

-The complainant suggested Frosty the Snowman as an alternative icon,
-and the school eventually agreed to have both Frosty and Santa.

-Mike Johnson, senior legal counsel for the conservative Alliance Defense
-Fund, told Cybercast News Service the situation was "just absurd."

-"My general reaction is probably the same as 95 percent of Americans when
-they hear about something like this," Johnson said. "It's ridiculous
-that we have to think twice about whether it's OK to celebrate
-Christmas in public."

-While acknowledging that Saint Nicholas, a Dutch bishop who had a
-reputation for giving gifts in secret, "clearly was the original figure
-that Santa is based upon," he noted that "most people would recognize
-Santa Claus himself as a secular-type figure."

-"The underlying principle here is that the First Amendment does not
-guarantee any of us a right not to be offended," Johnson said. "These
-radical leftist types are arguing that just because 95 percent of
-Americans, according to rece polling, celebrate Christmas, they ought
-not to have that right" since a perso with a different view might
-object.

-"There's probably a small percentage of evangelical Christians in this
-country-who don't celebrate Halloween, but would any of these leftists
-argue that Christians have a right to ruin the party for everyone who
-wants to celebrate it?" Johnson asked. "Do they have the right to tell
-you that you can't wish th a happy Halloween? Of course not.

-"This is ultimately about religious liberty," Johnson asserted.
-"Everyone's rights and beliefs should be respected, and no one should
-be discriminated against."

-Darlene Baratto, who is chairing the PTA event, told the Advertiser that,
-since it falls on a Saturday and attendance is optional, no one is
-being discriminated against.

-"We have a beautiful background people can have a picture in front of,"
-Baratt said. "That wasn't good enough. We changed the name, colors, the
-background," but that did not satisfy the complaining parent. "She was
-not open to anything We'll have 300 or so kids who are disappointed."

-Lisa Roca, another member of the breakfast committee, disputed the idea
-that Santa was anything but a secular character.

-"Many churches try to take Santa out of Christmas because he is secular,
-not religious," she told the newspaper. "Their Christmas plays have
-nothing to do with Santa."

-Catholic League President Bill Donohue called the events at the school an
-"exercise in tyranny."

-"There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution, of course, that bans
-'Breakfast with Santa' from taking place in a public school," Donohue
-said in a statement. "This has nothing to do with the law -- it has
-everything to do with bowing to the pressure of bigots."

-A number of calls to the school and the PTA seeking comment for this
-article were not returned by press time.
-Copyright 1998-2006 Cybercast News Service

- - -  JimH.

... "Bah! Humbug!" - - Ebenezer Scrooge
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