Text 26782, 119 rader
Skriven 2007-02-02 06:17:13 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 26758 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Presidential race
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Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>> Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB>>> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>>>> Gary Braswell -> John Massey wrote:
 GB>>>>> John Massey -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JM>>>>>> Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:


 GB>>>>>>> Out or in, they were gunning down unarmed people trying to
 GB> cross a
 GB>>>>>>> border who by and large, had no malign intent towards the nation.

 JM>>>>>> IF they had had "no malign intent" then the bastards should COME
 GB>>> HERE
 JM>>>>>> LEGALLY.
 JM>>>>>> Anything other than that shoot then.

 GB>>>>> With your belly full, a good job, no squalor, no corruption to deal
 JH>>>> with
 GB>>>>> and health, its easy to say that.

 GB>>>>> Its being refugees. We suffer the phenomenon of refugees since we
 GB>>> live
 GB>>>>> next to a poor, corrupt country.

 GB>>>>> Refugees flee war, famine, pestilence, poverty, etc.

 GB>>>>> That is why they come here.

 GB>>>>> Most come here to a democracy where they can work and make a
 JH>>>> living, not
 GB>>>>> take over by force of arms or attack the US.

 GB>>>>> That is no malign intent.

 GB>>>>> They come to the land of opportunity and want the American dream.

 GB>>>>> Most when they are caught, meekly give in to the authorities. They
 JH>>>> don't
 GB>>>>> fight or kill. They go back home and try to get in again.

 GB>>>>> That is why they should not be shot, especially since we can take
 JH>>>> other
 GB>>>>> measures.



 JH>>>> You have got to be seven different kinds of fool if you believe that
 JH>>>> tripe you just wrote!  Refugees my butt!  Those people are being
 JH>>>> encouraged by the Mexican government and other groups down there to
 GB>>> come
 JH>>>> up here.  Not just to work and send money home.  They've done that
 JH>> for
 JH>>>> 100 years and we didn't have the problems we have now.  Mexico
 GB>>> wants the
 JH>>>> Southwest back, and they want Texas back.  There is a politically
 JH>>>> astute, and well-funded movement (several actually) that have been
 JH>>>> pushing for that for decades.

 JH>>>> Don't try to tell me this isn't an invasion, because it is just
 GB> that.

 GB>>> Sure Mexico is encouraging them to come here, less load on them and
 GB>>> good, solid US money coming back into their country. No ulterior
 JH>> motive
 GB>>> there. I am sure some radicals want the West returned to Mexico,
 JH>> but far
 GB>>> and away the people coming here want a job and money.

 GB>>> This smacks of the black helicopter stuff of the 90s, the
 JH>> conspiracy of
 GB>>> illegals being secret soldiers of Mexico sent here to take the west
 JH>> back.

 GB>>> And you are calling me a fool?


 JH>> Evidently you are.  Did you live within 25 miles of the border for 20
 JH>> years like I did?  No.  I watched the La Raza movement grow from its
 JH>> beginnings, and several other political groups as well, and they all
 JH>> have the stated goal of returning the Southwest and SoCal to Mexico
 JH>> hegemony.  You saw the marchers last summer all over the country?
 GB> What
 JH>> the hell do you think they were marching about?  Why do you think they
 JH>> were told not to fly the Mexican flag?  Because they don't want Anglos
 JH>> to know what their plans are until its too late to do anything
 GB> about it.

 JH>> Whose side do you think the majority of those 20 million illegals
 GB> are on
 JH>> if you ask that question?

 GB> Like I said, sure there are radicals out there who want the west
 GB> returned to Mexico.

 GB> It will never happen.

 GB> To say that all or a majority of illegals are in on this "plot" is just
 GB> a conspiracy theory.

 GB> No reasoning with a conspiracy theory.

 GB> The reason most of the protesters were out was to object to some of the
 GB> legislation being considered and make themselves seen.


You just plain don't get it, do you?  They don't have to actually, physically
take back those areas.  All they have to do is get so many latinos in those
areas, and into positions of authority, that they change the local laws to
favor their own people.  Eventually they will force out the anglos and make
that part of America a country within a country.  That's what happened in
Canada with Quebec and the Separatist movement.

That's all being fed by the illegal border traffic, which is being encouraged
by the Mexican government.  That's fact, not conspiracy theory.

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