Text 26820, 97 rader
Skriven 2007-02-02 19:37:19 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 26793 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: Presidential race
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Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RC> Hello Ed!

 RC> 01 Feb 07 22:34, you wrote to me:

 RC>>> In this context, its plenty justification to call or refer to
 RC>>> these types in a deragatory way, they have given one reason to
 RC>>> dislike or hate them.

 EH>> Hate only affects the hater.

 RC> The point is, these people are not entitled to polite endearments.

And why not?

 RC>>> Now why cant John dislike central and south americans whom break
 RC>>> our laws to enter the country and who gets to decide for him the
 RC>>> methods he chooses to voice this dislike?

 EH>> He can dislike anyone he wishes. Calling them "wetbacks" doesn't do a
 EH>> thing WRT the issue.

 RC> Then chalk it up as a unpolite endearment he uses towards latinos whom
 RC> cross the border illegally.

I point out racism when I see it.

 RC>>> Before calling him a racist, has he referred to all latinos as
 RC>>> wetbacks?

 EH>> He doesn't have to.

 RC> Yes he does.

And who says he doesn't? If he's willing to use the term in a public forum he's
already shown that he's a racist.

 RC> All you are doing is projecting onto him your own sensibilities and
 RC> holding him hostage to them, show me where he has painted all latin
 RC> americans with the same brush?

I don't have to. I'm not the one who used the term.

 RC>>> Shooting them as they cross the border, sure, ok, its extreme,
 RC>>> but they are just words, and I bet as you drove down the road and
 RC>>> saw another driver break some traffic law, you may have at least
 RC>>> "mused" that that person ought to get a punishment that would be
 RC>>> well extreme of established laws.

 EH>> You'd lose that bet. I wish no one ill.

 RC> Ah, ye walketh on water?

No, I never claimed that.

 RC>>> This is not the defend John Hull show, but we all say strong
 RC>>> words to voice displeasure.

 EH>> Using strong words is one thing, using racial slurs is quite another.

 RC> Sure Senor Gringo. ;-)

I lived in a community where there were several families from Mexico. I didn't
call them disparaging names, and they didn't call me disparaging names. They
liked BBQs and there were several block parties. The food was great.

 RC>>> and I will point out that most of us in here voice our
 RC>>> displeasure about Otto Ross Sauer and Wayne Chirnside all the
 RC>>> frickin time about their social dependent status, we say some
 RC>>> pretty mean things to convey that, downright nasty ass insults,
 RC>>> even if most are well deserved, so why is John facing the firing
 RC>>> squad over how he chose to voice displeasure?

 EH>> No one is using racial slurs against Otto or Wayne.

 RC> No but the slurs used are still just as harsh.

Not from this end.

Ed

-- 
"But the safety of the people of America against dangers from
foreign force depends not only on their forbearing to give
just causes of war to other nations, but also on their placing
and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to invite
hostility or insult; for it need not be observed that there are
pretended as well as just causes of war."

-- John Jay (Federalist No. 4)


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