Text 26840, 111 rader
Skriven 2007-02-03 00:29:55 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 26831 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: Presidential race
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Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RC> Hello Ed!

 RC> 02 Feb 07 19:37, you wrote to me:

 EH>>>> Hate only affects the hater.

 RC>>> The point is, these people are not entitled to polite
 RC>>> endearments.

 EH>> And why not?

 RC> Because they are criminals, and criminals dont deserve respect if they
 RC> fail to respect the society in which they victimize.

Even criminals deserve to be treated politely.

 RC> BTW, illegal immigration is not a victimless crime.

No one said it was.

 RC>>> Then chalk it up as a unpolite endearment he uses towards latinos
 RC>>> whom cross the border illegally.

 EH>> I point out racism when I see it.

 RC> PeeCee I see.

Nope, I'm not being "PeeCee," I'm being realistic. It doesn't help the issue by
attempting to dehumanize those entering this country illegally.

 RC> Well you saying John is a racist doesnt make him a racist, even if you
 RC> reassert it a million times.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!

John's words show him for what he is.

 RC> Take that one to the bank.

Hahahahahahaha!!!

You should pick your allies better.

 EH>>>> He doesn't have to.

 RC>>> Yes he does.

 EH>> And who says he doesn't? If he's willing to use the term in a public
 EH>> forum he's already shown that he's a racist.

 RC> and if you said you wished you had a mllion dollars, should I assume
 RC> that to mean you would do anything up to robbing a bank to acquire it?

Huh? You aren't making sense.

 RC> You are projecting.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Projecting what?

 RC>>> All you are doing is projecting onto him your own sensibilities
 RC>>> and holding him hostage to them, show me where he has painted all
 RC>>> latin americans with the same brush?

 EH>> I don't have to. I'm not the one who used the term.

 RC> Yes you do since you are the one calling him a racist using your
 RC> sensibilities.

Good grief. Why do you insist on wallowing in the mud with John?

 RC> You calling John a racist doesnt make him a racist.

No, his words make him one.

 EH>>>> Using strong words is one thing, using racial slurs is quite
 EH>>>> another.

 RC>>> Sure Senor Gringo. ;-)

 EH>> I lived in a community where there were several families from Mexico.
 EH>> I didn't call them disparaging names, and they didn't call me
 EH>> disparaging names. They liked BBQs and there were several block
 EH>> parties. The food was great.

 RC> Human nature being what it is, all of us have used incorrect
 RC> endearments, I highly doubt you are exempt from that trait.

"Incorrect endearments" are one thing, racist terms used to dehumanize others
is quite another.

Ed

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"But the safety of the people of America against dangers from
foreign force depends not only on their forbearing to give
just causes of war to other nations, but also on their placing
and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to invite
hostility or insult; for it need not be observed that there are
pretended as well as just causes of war."

-- John Jay (Federalist No. 4)


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