Text 26899, 51 rader
Skriven 2007-02-04 00:17:01 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 26893 av Mimi Gallandt (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: WETBACKS, THE BORDER, SOL
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Mimi Gallandt -> Jeff Binkley wrote:
 MG> Jeff Binkley -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 GB>>>>>> We can try other things fist, John. You know that. Come on.

 GB>>>>>> The reason its epidemic is the lack of enforcement, the lack
 GB>>>>>> of political action because of politicians wanting the
 GB>>>>>> Hispanic vote as well as allowing business to get cheap labor.

 BA>>>>> Not to mention the fact that American citizens don't want to
 BA>>>>> pay the price on goods that's required to pay other American
 BA>>>>> citizens to produce them. Which is why so many manufactured
 BA>>>>> goods are no longer manufactured in this country.

 JB>>>> That's Ok, wait till the libs and greenies wake up and see what
 JB>>>> their mad push to ethanol is going to do to energy and food
 JB>>>> costs.  This was predicted but nobody is listening.  Taken
 JB>>>> further it will actually cause an increase not a decrease in the
 JB>>>> use of fossil fuels.  But again heads are in the sand. This is
 JB>>>> the MTBE fiasco all over again.

 MG>>> On the subject of cars and alternative fuels; Ford has announced
 MG>>> they're building a "plug in" hydrogen car. Thought?

 JB>> Ultimately the way to go for the next 50 or so years but right now
 JB>> hydrogen is too expensive to manufacture.  Like ethanol, it takes more
 JB>> energy to create than it provides for transportation.  Until that is
 JB>> resolved, none of these alternative fuel sources will be a benefit.
 MG> Mass
 JB>> production of hydrogen or ethanol will drive up the usage of
 JB>> electricity, which will drive up the burning of coal.  Remember, the
 JB>> greenies don't want nuclear reactors, except in France, where 70%
 MG> of the
 JB>> electricity is generated using nuclear power.


 JB>> Jeff

 MG> As I said to John my interest isn't in cleaner air (although that
 MG> wouldn't be a bad thing <g>) my interest is in getting the boots of OPEC
 MG> off our necks.


They aren't on our neck.  We get more than half our oil from other sources than
the Middle East, and we've just discovered a huge deposit in the Gulf that some
say is as big as Saudi Arabia's fields.  But, they need us as much as we need
them.  If they get too greedy and run the price up beyond the ability of
countries to pay, they will lose customers.  They don't have the refinery
capacity or the storage capacity to go without selling their oil for very long.

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