Text 26981, 87 rader
Skriven 2007-02-04 23:25:03 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 26979 av Mimi Gallandt (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Presidential race
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Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG> Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH>> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG>>> Ed Hulett -> Ross Cassell wrote:
 EH>>>> Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RC>>>>> Hello Ed!

 RC>>>>> 04 Feb 07 00:37, you wrote to me:

 RC>>>>>>> Considering that a criminal didnt polititely treat his or her
 RC>>>>>>> victims, what makes you think they deserve polite treatment, they
 RC>>>>>>> are entitled to their constitutional rights, not entitled to be
 RC>>>>>>> held in high esteem.

 EH>>>>>> I didn't say anything about being "held in high esteem," I said
 EH>>>>>> treated politely. There *is* a difference.

 RC>>>>> It is a requirement for the police, the jailers and any officer of
 MG>>> the
 RC>>>>> court to behave professionally when detaining, arresting,
 MG>>> confining or
 RC>>>>> trying the criminal, if this is what you meant, ok I agree.

 EH>>>> This is what I mean. John, OTOH, said they should be shot merely for
 EH>>>> crossing the border.

 RC>>>>>>> You have every right to think of him as or even call him, scum of
 RC>>>>>>> the earth, so long as you dont become Mr Vigilante or break the
 RC>>>>>>> law yourself.

 EH>>>>>> Are you now equating illegal aliens with rapists?

 RC>>>>> No, but criminals are criminals, regardless of which law they may
 EH>>>> break.

 EH>>>> No, some crimes are worse than others. Rape and murder are worse
 MG>>> crimes
 EH>>>> than most any other crime. I wouldn't lose sleep over a rapist of
 EH>>>> murderer being shot to death as they tried to elude the police. I
 MG>>> would
 EH>>>> think it a bit harsh to shoot someone if they parked in a loading
 MG>>> zone.
 MG>>> (snip)

 MG>>> It may or may not be known here that I'm something of a true crime
 MG>>> aficionado and in all the reading and researching crime that I've
 MG> done
 MG>>> *ONE* "illegal alien" has committed a crime (actually many of them)
 MG>>> other than entering the country without governmental permission:
 MG> Angel
 MG>>> Resendez. He was a vile human being who committed many murders,
 EH>> known as
 MG>>> the rail road killer he was a serial killer who crossed and recrossed
 MG>>> the border at will, but this one very sick, violent person is hardly
 MG>>> indicative of all Hispanics.

 EH>> If they committ other, more heinous crimes, they deserve whatever
 EH>> treatment they get. If all they do is cross the border, send them back
 EH>> by all means, but don't dehumanize them by calling them "wetbacks" and
 EH>> advocating they be shot.

 EH>> That is all I'm saying. It does the issue of illegal aliens no good by
 EH>> using such charged language.

 MG> Yes, I just piggy backed on your post, I wasn't arguing with you, only
 MG> pointing out the one serial murdering "illegal alien" that I know of.

I knew that.

Ed

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"But the safety of the people of America against dangers from
foreign force depends not only on their forbearing to give
just causes of war to other nations, but also on their placing
and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to invite
hostility or insult; for it need not be observed that there are
pretended as well as just causes of war."

-- John Jay (Federalist No. 4)


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