Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   28661/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1121
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3218
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13271
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4288
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   32896
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2056
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33903
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24126
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4408
FN_SYSOP   41678
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13599
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16070
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22092
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   926
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
Möte POLITICS, 29554 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 28364, 106 rader
Skriven 2007-04-27 12:21:38 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
Ärende: Ghetto-izing Bagdad?
============================
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_riverbendblog_archive.html#8633937
213645733275%238633937213645733275

Baghdad Burning

... I'll meet you 'round the bend my friend, where hearts can heal and souls
can mend...
Thursday, April 26, 2007

The Great Wall of Segregation...
Which is the wall the current Iraqi government is building (with the support
and guidance of the Americans). It's a wall that is intended to separate and
isolate what is now considered the largest 'Sunni' area in Baghdad- let no one
say the Americans are not building anything. According to plans the Iraqi
puppets and Americans cooked up, it will 'protect' A'adhamiya, a
residential/mercantile area that the current Iraqi government and their death
squads couldn't empty of Sunnis.

The wall, of course, will protect no one. I sometimes wonder if this is how the
concentration camps began in Europe. The Nazi government probably said, "Oh
look- we're just going to protect the Jews with this little wall here- it will
be difficult for people to get into their special area to hurt them!" And yet,
it will also be difficult to get out.

The Wall is the latest effort to further break Iraqi society apart. Promoting
and supporting civil war isn't enough, apparently- Iraqis have generally proven
to be more tenacious and tolerant than their mullahs, ayatollahs, and Vichy
leaders. It's time for America to physically divide and conquer- like Berlin
before the wall came down or Palestine today. This way, they can continue
chasing Sunnis out of "Shia areas" and Shia out of "Sunni areas".

I always hear the Iraqi pro-war crowd interviewed on television from foreign
capitals (they can only appear on television from the safety of foreign
capitals because I defy anyone to be publicly pro-war in Iraq). They refuse to
believe that their religiously inclined, sectarian political parties fueled
this whole Sunni/Shia conflict. They refuse to acknowledge that this situation
is a direct result of the war and occupation. They go on and on about Iraq's
history and how Sunnis and Shia were always in conflict and I hate that. I hate
that a handful of expats who haven't been to the country in decades pretend to
know more about it than people actually living there.

I remember Baghdad before the war- one could live anywhere. We didn't know what
our neighbors were- we didn't care. No one asked about religion or sect. No one
bothered with what was considered a trivial topic: are you Sunni or Shia? You
only asked something like that if you were uncouth and backward. Our lives
revolve around it now. Our existence depends on hiding it or highlighting it-
depending on the group of masked men who stop you or raid your home in the
middle of the night.

On a personal note, we've finally decided to leave. I guess I've known we would
be leaving for a while now. We discussed it as a family dozens of times. At
first, someone would suggest it tentatively because, it was just a preposterous
idea- leaving ones home and extended family- leaving ones country- and to what?
To where?

Since last summer, we had been discussing it more and more. It was only a
matter of time before what began as a suggestion- a last case scenario- soon
took on solidity and developed into a plan. For the last couple of months, it
has only been a matter of logistics. Plane or car? Jordan or Syria? Will we all
leave together as a family? Or will it be only my brother and I at first?

After Jordan or Syria- where then? Obviously, either of those countries is
going to be a transit to something else. They are both overflowing with Iraqi
refugees, and every single Iraqi living in either country is complaining of the
fact that work is difficult to come by, and getting a residency is even more
difficult. There is also the little problem of being turned back at the border.
Thousands of Iraqis aren't being let into Syria or Jordan- and there are no
definite criteria for entry, the decision is based on the whim of the border
patrol guard checking your passport.

An airplane isn't necessarily safer, as the trip to Baghdad International
Airport is in itself risky and travelers are just as likely to be refused
permission to enter the country (Syria and Jordan) if they arrive by airplane.
And if you're wondering why Syria or Jordan, because they are the only two
countries that will let Iraqis in without a visa. Following up visa issues with
the few functioning embassies or consulates in Baghdad is next to impossible.

So we've been busy. Busy trying to decide what part of our lives to leave
behind. Which memories are dispensable? We, like many Iraqis, are not the
classic refugees- the ones with only the clothes on their backs and no choice.
We are choosing to leave because the other option is simply a continuation of
what has been one long nightmare- stay and wait and try to survive.

On the one hand, I know that leaving the country and starting a new life
somewhere else- as yet unknown- is such a huge thing that it should dwarf every
trivial concern. The funny thing is that it?s the trivial that seems to occupy
our lives. We discuss whether to take photo albums or leave them behind. Can I
bring along a stuffed animal I've had since the age of four? Is there room for
E.'s guitar? What clothes do we take? Summer clothes? The winter clothes too?
What about my books? What about the CDs, the baby pictures?

The problem is that we don't even know if we'll ever see this stuff again. We
don't know if whatever we leave, including the house, will be available when
and if we come back. There are moments when the injustice of having to leave
your country, simply because an imbecile got it into his head to invade it, is
overwhelming. It is unfair that in order to survive and live normally, we have
to leave our home and what remains of family and friends? And to what?

It's difficult to decide which is more frightening- car bombs and militias, or
having to leave everything you know and love, to some unspecified place for a
future where nothing is certain.

posted by river @ 5:03 PM

--- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag
 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)