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Skriven 2007-04-29 07:35:36 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Alan Hess
Ärende: Rudy
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Alan Hess -> John Hull wrote:
 AH> Whilst masticating on <Apr 26 07>, John Hull (1:123/789)
 AH> wrote to Alan Hess:
 JB>>>> By: Roger Simon
 JB>>>> <http://www.politico.com/reporters/RogerSimon.html> April 24,
 JB>>>> 2007 08:29 PM EST

 JB>>>> MANCHESTER, N.H. - - Rudy Giuliani said if a Democrat is
 JB>>>> elected president in 2008, America will be at risk for another
 JB>>>> terrorist attack on the scale of Sept. 11, 2001.

 AH>>> A Democratic administration would ignore intelligence the way
 AH>>> the Bush administration did?  I suppose that's possible.

 JB>>>> But if a Republican is elected, he said, especially if it is
 JB>>>> him, terrorist attacks can be anticipated and stopped.

 AH>>> Just like Bush stopped 9/11 from happening.

 JH>> He couldn't have stopped 9/11.  It took 8 months to dismantle the
 JH>> hash Clinton had made of things at Justice and the rest of the
 JH>> federal law enforcement agencies.

 AH> They had intelligence regarding the possible use of hijacked planes in
 AH> an attack, and ignored that.  They still may not have been able to stop
it.


That's a load of crap, Alan.  It took more than the 8 months to tear down the
interagency wall that kept the various intelligence groups from sharing
information.  Any intelligence that we may have had at that time was suspect
because it couldn't be verified.  If you don't have all the pieces of the
puzzle in one place, its pretty damn hard to get even a rough idea of what the
finished puzzle looks like, and you can't act on maybe.

 JH>> But it is rather telling that there have been no more such
 JH>> attacks on American soil since then, and we know of several
 JH>> attempts that were foiled.  Giuliani couldn't have done any
 JH>> better, not will he in the future if he gets elected.

 AH> Then it is just as telling that there was no attack on American soil for
 AH> eight years after the first WTC attack, the perpetrators of which were
 AH> caught.  *adh*

Oh, please.  Catching them didn't mean diddly.  The people who orchestrated it
weren't not even in this country, nor were the people who put up the money. 
Same pattern as 9/11.  We didn't catch any of them because they successfully
completed their missions - they were all dead!

Intelligence is worthless if you don't have some way to verify the authenticity
of it.  Even if you can authenticate it, its worthless if you don't have enough
details, and if you don't have enough lead time to prevent it.

Bush not only didn't have enough verifiable intelligence, we didn't know how
many of them there were, when they planned to attack, or what the targets would
be, and because of the mess Clinton made of the Justice Dept., the agencies
that had any intel couldn't share it.

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