Text 29527, 83 rader
Skriven 2007-08-14 08:57:08 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 29525 av Bob Ackley (1:2905/3)
Ärende: Ellison
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Bob Ackley -> John Hull wrote:
 BA> Replying to a message of John Hull to Bob Ackley:

 BA>>>>> You folks out there on the right wing.

 VH>>>> As opposed to you folks who are encouraging the enemy and
 BA> chortling
 VH>>>> over the death of every American soldier?

 BA>>> Either you have me confused with somebody else or you're sinking to
 BA>>> Stan's level of nasty cheap shots.  I have always deplored the
 BA> death
 BA>>> of any American soldier.

 BA>>> George W. Bush has done more to encourage and reinforce the
 BA> Islamist
 BA>>> terrorists than anyone who opposes his mad adventures has.  Just
 BA>>> about every action this administration has taken WRT Islamist
 BA>>> terrorism has been counterproductive.

 JH>> What a crock of crap.

 BA> Really?

 JH>>  Mohammed was a terrorist!  He gained power and
 JH>> was able to found Islam because of that fact.  The damned Islamic
 JH>> jihadists tried to take over the world once before and got the crap
 JH>> kicked out of themselves.

 BA> Actually they didn't.  Their armies were stopped in Spain and in the
 BA> Balkans.
 BA> It took about 300 years to push them out of Spain, and there's still a
 BA> considerable
 BA> Muslim population in the Balkans.

 JH>>  They're trying to do the same damn thing today, and it will have
 BA> the
 JH>> same result.  And they still won't have learned anything from
 BA> this go round,
 JH>> let alone the first one.

 BA> Islam has managed to co-exist reasonably peacefully with the rest of
 BA> the planet for
 BA> several centuries.  In recent times there have been events that have
 BA> caused some
 BA> Islamics to violently react - the establishment of the state of Israel
 BA> squarely in the
 BA> middle of Islamic territory in 1948, for example.  There has been
 BA> considerable violent
 BA> unrest in that part of the Middle East for over half a century, but it
 BA> was pretty much
 BA> confined to Palestine (which  includes Israel) - and we can thank
 BA> Yasser Arafat for
 BA> much of that.

 BA> The presence of US forces in Islamic territory - Iraq and Afghanistan
 BA> (and the
 BA> Emirates, which is going to cause those leaders a lot of trouble in
 BA> the future) - is
 BA> the irritant that causes formerly non-militant Islamics to join up
 BA> with the radicals.
 BA> Absent that irritant the radicals would find recruiting much more
 BA> difficult.  Remember
 BA> that bin Laden's original gripe with the US was that US forces were
 BA> stationed in
 BA> Saudi Arabia - he has, of course, since widened his horizons.

Well, isn't it just too damn bad that the Israelis get to have a homeland!  The
Jews owned that land long before Islam ever existed, and have more right to it
than any Arab, Palestinian, or muslim.  It isn't OUR fault that some of those
countries prefer us as allies over Iran and its religious fanatic govt.  And,
finally, you still haven't refuted the fact that Muhammod was a terrorist or
that Islam is based on the use of terrorism to accomplish its goals.

You don't have a leg to stand on.

-- 
John
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