Text 3741, 80 rader
Skriven 2004-10-18 04:32:29 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 3646 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
Ärende: Edwards
===============
17 Oct 04 14:27, LEE LOFASO wrote to JOHN HULL:

 LL> Hello John,

 >>FS>I didn't find Kerry's remarks about Cheney's daughter to be so
 >>FS>shocking though I *did* wonder what his goal was in saying what
 >>FS>he said.  One can dream up various reasons, of course.  One could
 >>FS>be that Kerry is trying to point out to heterosexuals that
 >>FS>homosexual influence is in the white house.  Another could be
 >>FS>that Kerry was trying to get the homosexual vote by pointing out
 >>FS>how "broadminded" he was.

 >>FS>Now, of course, as you've pointed out, the situation has legs ...

 JH>>Kerry's remarks, in and of themselves, aren't all that bad.  Its 
 JH>>the context which he made them that is so agregious.  Because, you 
 JH>>see, it wasn't just Kerry making them - it was also Edwards, and 
 JH>>then Edwards' smug wife, making gratuitous comments.  I haven't 
 JH>>heard even one political analyst opine that this wasn't a 
 JH>>pre-discussed thing by the Kerry campaign.  As such, it is clearly 
 JH>>out of bounds.  There was absolutely no political reason to bring 
 JH>>up Mary Cheney, in any context, in that debate or on the stump.  
 JH>>There are stil SOME rules of decorum that people insist on in the 
 JH>>rough and tumble of politics, and children (even grown children) of 
 JH>>your opponent are inviolate that arena.

 LL> Lemme see if I got this right.  It's okay for Cheney to curse a 
 LL> lawmaker
 LL> on the Senate floor.  It's okay for Alan Keyes to call Cheney's 
 LL> lesbian
 LL> daughter a "selfish hedonist".  It's okay for Cheney to publicly 
 LL> say
 LL> his daughter is a lesbian.  But it's not okay for Kerry to say 
 LL> that
 LL> Cheney's daughter is a lesbian during a presidential debate.

No, you moron, it isn't.  Kerry's comments were gratuitous and self-serving. 

 JH>>I've been keeping a close watch on this issue, both locally, and on 
 JH>>the national news, and people are really ticked off about this.  
 JH>>Around here, ev the hardcore Democrats are outraged (Democrats in my 
 JH>>area are a lot more conservative than those on the right and left 
 JH>>coast).

 LL> Kerry's remark could very well cost him the election.  After all,
 LL> conservatives will never criticize Alan Keyes for calling Cheney's
 LL> daughter a "selfish hedonist".  Conservatives will never criticize
 LL> Cheney for cursing a lawmaker on the Senate floor.  And nor will
 LL> conservatives criticize Cheney for saying his daughter is a 
 LL> lesbian.

Cheney is the ONLY one who has a right to talk about his daughter, but his
comments weren't out of line in the context in which he made them.  Neither
were Keyes' comments for that matter.  And no, I don't criticize Cheney for his
Senate comments.  Its long overdue that somebody tell off those fools.

 JH>>The other issue that has legs concerns the comments made by Edwards 
 JH>>regardin Christopher Reeves and stem cell research.  Charles 
 JH>>Krauthammer, the eminent columnist, is also confined to a 
 JH>>wheelchair.  His response to Edwards is rig on target and as 
 JH>>scathing as they come.  A lot of people are pissed about th too.

 LL> Unlike Cheney's daughter, Christopher Reeves was not gay.
 LL> Therefore, it is okay to be in support of stem cell support.
 LL> But most conservatives are opposed to such research, on grounds
 LL> that it is destructive to human life.

No, most conservatives are NOT opposed to stem cell research.  Get your facts
straight.  Also, Edwards' comments about Reeve were out of line.  Another
example of gratuitous and self-serving statements.  Read Charles Krauthammer's
editorial on it for details.


John 

America:  First, Last, and Always!
Go to www.madgorilla.us for all your Domain Name Services at the lowest rates.

--- Msged/386 TE 05
 * Origin:  (1:379/1.99)