Text 4743, 99 rader
Skriven 2004-11-09 07:46:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av LEE LOFASO
Ärende: Election
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-=> Quoting Lee Lofaso to Frank Scheidt <=-

 >LL>Despite record job losses, folks in Ohio preferred to stick with
 >LL>Bush.
 
 >LL>What the Democrats need is not a bad economy, but rather a vision
 >LL>for America.  The entire Kerry campaign was run using tactics.  No
 >LL>strategy involved at all.  Just tactics.  And that dog don't hunt.
 
 >JH>Vision my *ss.  They haven't had an original idea since 1932.
 
 >LL>And what a great vision it was!  Sixty years of Democratic control of
 >LL>both houses of Congress, as well as the U.S. Supreme Court!  Not only
 >LL>that, but the Democratic vision for America gave us the presidencies
 >LL>of FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, and Clinton!  And what a ride it was!
 >LL>If only today's Democrats would embrace that vision, rather than
 >LL>"apologize" for such success!
 
 FS>I think the Democrats would gain a bit of respect were they to
 FS>officially apologize for the misdeeds of FDR, JFK, LBJ
 FS>(especially), Carter and Clinton (especially).  Harry Truman was
 FS>the sole bright star in their firmament!

 LL> Quite the opposite!  Had Kerry not been such a flip-flopper, always
 LL> apologizing for his liberal votes, he would have won the election!
 LL> Especially if he had chosen Dennis Kucinich, the esteemed FDR-style
 LL> Democratic U.S. Representative from Ohio, as his running mate. Sure,
 LL> the Kerry/Kucinich team would have lost the popular vote, being down
 LL> by 25 million votes to the Bush/Cheney team, but Kerry/Kucinich would
 LL> have been winners in the electoral college, 272-266.
 
Is that the way it worked in your Parallel Universe?

 >LL>FDR won election in 1932 due to Republicans splitting their vote.
 
 >LL>FDR won re-election in 1936 with a recovering economy.
 
 >JH>We were still deep in the Depression in 36.
 
 >LL>And coming out of it fast, thanks to the economic policies of FDR.
 
 FS>In 1937 we dropped right back into the Depression!  "thanks to
 FS>the economic policies of FDR"? ... heh heh heh ...

 LL> In 1937 Americans were celebrating a return to prosperity, having
 LL> just re-elected FDR to a second term by a large margin.
 
Did your Parallel Universians *all* vote for their "FDR"??

 >LL>FDR won re-election in 1940 with a good economy.
 
 >JH>The economy was barely on its feet, and only because of increased
 >JH>government spending on war materiel.
 
 >LL>The economy was doing splendidly by 1940, with only remnants of the
 >LL>Great Depression remaining.  Had it not been for WWII, the economy
 >LL>would have done even better.
 
 FS>The economy was doing very poorly in 1940 then defense- (later
 FS>war-) production brought us out of the Great Depression finally.

 LL> The economy was doing quite well in 1940, and would have done even
 LL> better in the years following had there been no WWII.  That is why FDR
 LL> won his bid for a third consecutive term by such a wide margin.

Wow!  You Parallel Universians even had a WWII!  Who won??
 
 >LL>FDR won re-election in 1944 with a war economy.
 
 >JH>He won because he knew how to unify the people in the war effort,
 >JH>and because you don't change horses in the middle of a battle.
 
 >LL>FDR won election to the presidency *four* times, all by large margins.
 >LL>Why did people love FDR so much?  FDR created JOBS for people
 >LL>everywhere.  And putting people back to work is what brought this
 >LL>country out of the Great Depression.
 
 FS>Huh?  The only jobs FDR created were WPA and PWA jobs ... [sigh]

 LL> FDR saved capitalism from itself by infusing our economy with a mild
 LL> dose of socialism.  

HEY, LEE, YOU ACCIDENTALLY GOT ONE RIGHT!!!   REALLY!!!!!  
Oooops!  I forgot, in this case that means your Parallel Universe 
was congruent with *my* real universe ...

 LL> As a result, we have a mixed economy today rather
 LL> then the cesspool capitalism of yesteryear.  All thanks to FDR.  And
 LL> Truman.  And Kennedy.  And Johnson.  And Carter.  And Clinton.  :)

OK, back to your Parallel Universe ... [sigh] ... As FDR once 
said, "We have nothing to fear ... but a Parallel Universe itself" 
...

... Benign:  What you are after you be eight.

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