Text 5348, 93 rader
Skriven 2004-11-24 22:00:40 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 5256 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
Ärende: Breaking News!
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24 Nov 04 19:31, Björn Forsström wrote to Ross Cassell:

 BF>>> No, but it you can say it wasn't I can say it was and since none 
 BF>>> of us were there both of us can be wrong, can't we?

 RC>> Then this speaks for your ability to only want to see what the 
 RC>> "bad"??

 BF> On the contrary to you who only see the good.

 BF>>> Isn't this what they are trained to do and get payed for? Just 
 BF>>> like the police and firefighters.

 RC>> They arent trained and paid to be careless.

 BF> So should your soldiers.
 BF> A police or firefighter wouldn't enter a room under that 
 BF> circumstances.
 BF> They should call for backup.

Man, you don't understand anything, do you?  Cops and firemen aren't trained
combatants.  It isn't their job to do such things and never has been.  That's
why police departments have SWAT teams - Special Weapons and Tactics - people
who are trained the way the military is trained to assault fortified positions
and take out armed insurgents or criminals.

 RC>> "Its not your job to die for your country, its your job to make 
 RC>> the other guy die for his."

 BF> In the way that suits you best.

 BF>>> If it's part of their training to act like that it must be 
 BF>>> something wrong with it.

 RC>> They are trained to not take anything for granted.

 BF> I understand that but that doesn't give them the right to kill 
 BF> whom they like.

 RC>> Uh, first off, the bulk of these insurgents arent Iraqi, they are 
 RC>> imported mercenaries from Syria, Iran, Jordan and numerous other 
 RC>> places that have hotheaded islamic zealots desiring to be martyrs. 
 RC>> They have the same mentality as those Hamas assholes who strap 
 RC>> bombs to themselves and then go to a public place packed with alot 
 RC>> of Israeli jews and blow themselves up. (Ross notes that Euro's 
 RC>> such as Bjorn doesnt get upset when they do this)

 BF> You say that they are imported and why should I believe you. No 
 BF> one believes
 BF> me about that N379P plane from USA picking up people around the 
 BF> world.....

There are facts and then there is bullshit.  We can smell bullshit from a long
way off, even from Sweden.

 BF> And about those Hamas suicide-bombers....have we been talking 
 BF> about them
 BF> before so you know what I think of them?
 BF> I can puy words in your mouth as well. (Björn notes that USAians 
 BF> such as Ross
 BF> doesn't get upset when Catholic priests in USA are child 
 BF> molesters)

I've never heard Ross make any such statement, not in the ten years or more
we've crossed paths in Fido.

 RC>> I would buy your argument if the insurgent was already a secured 
 RC>> prisoner
 RC>> and then the soldier with that knowledge killed him anyway.

 BF> And what if the prisoner was so injured or so in chock that he 
 BF> couldn't speek?

Then he would be in hospital right now, instead of being dead.

 BF>>> And that give you the right to shoot without any questions asked?

 RC>> Yes, except if the insurgent was actively trying to surrender.

 BF> See above.

The terrorists in the room who put their hands up and said don't shoot are
still alive and getting treatment.  How come nobody shot them, hmm?  Could it
be that maybe it was because they did nothing suspicious that caused them to
get shot? 

John 

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