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Skriven 2004-12-01 23:29:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av LEE LOFASO
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-=> Quoting Lee Lofaso to Frank Scheidt <=-

 >>> Continued from previous message
 
 >LL>Dropping atomic bombs saved no lives, given that Japan was ready
 >LL>and willing to surrender weeks before.
 
 FS>Not so!  see above ...

 LL> The reason for dropping two atomic bombs on Japanese cities had
 LL> nothing to do with ending the War in the Pacific.  Japan had already
 LL> offered to surrender conditionally, weeks before the United States
 LL> nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

It had *everything* with ending that phase of the war!!

 LL> So what was the reason?  The United States wanted to send a message to
 LL> Russia.  Truman called up Stalin on the hotline and told him, in no
 LL> unspecific terms, "We have atomic bombs, and are willing to use them.
 LL> This is what happened to two Japanese cities. The same will happen to
 LL> Russian cities if you try to invade northern Japan."

Truman told Stalin face-to-face at the conference they held in 
Teheran(?) after the German surrender.  Stalin already knew of 
the bomb thanks to the traitor Oppenheimer who kept his commie 
friends fully informed.

 LL> When Truman talked, Stalin listened.

Yeah ...
 
 >LL>Militarily, Japan was already
 >LL>soundly defeated.  Dropping atomic bombs on Japanese cities gave us no
 >LL>advantage, and only served to antagonize the Japanese people, as well
 >LL>as the world.
 
 FS>What it *did* do was to finally galvanize the Jap Emperor to
 FS>*quit*.

 LL> Emperor Hirohito was ready to throw in the towel months before.
 LL> Heck, he never liked the idea of war with America in the first place.
 
How do you know that??

 >LL>Oh sure, dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki decreased the
 >LL>overpopulation problem.  Dropping those atomic bombs also killed a lot
 >LL>of annoying bugs, such as termites, locusts, and politicians.  Nike
 >LL>was also able to set up shop after those a-bombs cleared some land.
 >LL>Japan also got lots of publicity, publicity it hasn't seen since
 >LL>Godzilla wiped out Tokyo.  And just think of all the free stuff we gave
 >LL>to Japan after we dropped them a-bombs.  Stuff like bandaids and animal
 >LL>crackers. Not to mention a bunch of foreign aid in the form of US
 >LL>dollars.
 
 FS>So?

 LL> In 1930, Japan had a population of 100 million people.
 LL> Today, Japan has a population of 120 million people.
 LL> And that population is declining, given too few women
 LL> to make babies.  By 2020, Japan will have a population
 LL> less than it had in 1930.  Germany also has a declining
 LL> population.  As well as Italy.  Just not enough women
 LL> to make babies.

 LL> America, of course, has a growing population.  But only
 LL> because of immigration.  Japanese, Germans, Italians, etc.
 LL> all moving to America.  As such, we've got their women.
 LL> Most of them young women.  Make plenty babies.

 LL> You see, in order defeat an enemy, war is not the answer.
 LL> Instead, one must use the old standby - "Make love, not war."
 LL> That works.  Every time.
 
 >LL>As a nation, we should be ashamed of ourselves for having nuked two
 >LL>Japanese cities, thus ending the lives of over a hundred thousand
 >LL>innocent civilians.
 
 FS>Actually "Hiroshima Day" should be a day of *national*
 FS>*celebration* in the USA!!!!

 LL> Americans do not celebrate the annihilation of life, but rather the
 LL> continuation of life.  That is why Americans cheered the end of the
 LL> war, with our troops coming home.  Women finally got to be with their
 LL> men, and made plenty babies as a result.  "Make love, not war" became
 LL> the new battlecry for Americans everywhere...
 
"Hiroshima Day" would be in celebration of the mammoth saving of 
lives thanks to the dropping of the atomic bomb!

 >LL>Not to mention the hundreds of thousands more
 >LL>who died as a result of radiation poisoning in the decades since.
 >LL>Notice that no other nation on Earth has dropped nukes on cities.
 >LL>There is a reason why.
 
 FS>Because *we* have more of them ...

 LL> Reducing the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons is what is needed.

Right.  The United States should be the only nation with nukes 
then there could be *true* peace on earth!

... Captain, why do our phasers look like dustbusters?

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