Text 5769, 120 rader
Skriven 2004-12-05 08:30:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av LEE LOFASO
Ärende: Breaking News!
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-=> Quoting Lee Lofaso to Frank Scheidt <=-

 >LL>Dropping atomic bombs saved no lives, given that Japan was ready
 >LL>and willing to surrender weeks before.
 
 >FS>Not so!  see above ...
 
 >LL>The reason for dropping two atomic bombs on Japanese cities had
 >LL>nothing to do with ending the War in the Pacific.  Japan had already
 >LL>offered to surrender conditionally, weeks before the United States
 >LL>nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 
 FS>It had *everything* with ending that phase of the war!!

 LL> It kept the war from becoming a US/USSR confrontation.

Fortunately for the Russians -- *if* what you say is true, of 
course.
 
 >LL>So what was the reason?  The United States wanted to send a message to
 >LL>Russia.  Truman called up Stalin on the hotline and told him, in no
 >LL>unspecific terms, "We have atomic bombs, and are willing to use them.
 >LL>This is what happened to two Japanese cities. The same will happen to
 >LL>Russian cities if you try to invade northern Japan."
 
 FS>Truman told Stalin face-to-face at the conference they held in
 FS>Teheran(?) after the German surrender.  Stalin already knew of
 FS>the bomb thanks to the traitor Oppenheimer who kept his commie
 FS>friends fully informed.

 LL> Some American generals did not want to stop with the a-bombing of
 LL> Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wanting to do away with Russian cities as
 LL> well. And had Truman listened to those generals, there would be no more
 LL> world today.
 
Patton, among others wanted to invade Russia.  That might have 
been a good idea except for the fact that it would have kept me 
in uniform -- not a good thing at all ... [sigh] ... I had had 
enough of the military life and wanted out ...

 >LL>When Truman talked, Stalin listened.
 
 FS>Yeah ...

 LL> By George, I think you've got it!

I *always* have ... [sigh] ...

 LL> We had the a-bomb, the Russians did not.
 LL> Stalin knew it, and knew we would use those
 LL> a-bombs.  And not just on Japanese cities.

And we had the delivery systems ...
 
 >LL>Militarily, Japan was already
 >LL>soundly defeated.  Dropping atomic bombs on Japanese cities gave us no
 >LL>advantage, and only served to antagonize the Japanese people, as well
 >LL>as the world.
 
 >FS>What it *did* do was to finally galvanize the Jap Emperor to
 >FS>*quit*.
 
 >LL>Emperor Hirohito was ready to throw in the towel months before.
 >LL>Heck, he never liked the idea of war with America in the first place.
 
 FS>How do you know that??

 LL> Hirohito told me so.

You shouldn't have paid so much attention to him ...
                        ... [snip] ...
 >LL>As a nation, we should be ashamed of ourselves for having nuked two
 >LL>Japanese cities, thus ending the lives of over a hundred thousand
 >LL>innocent civilians.
 
 >FS>Actually "Hiroshima Day" should be a day of *national*
 >FS>*celebration* in the USA!!!!
 
 >LL>Americans do not celebrate the annihilation of life, but rather the
 >LL>continuation of life.  That is why Americans cheered the end of the
 >LL>war, with our troops coming home.  Women finally got to be with their
 >LL>men, and made plenty babies as a result.  "Make love, not war" became
 >LL>the new battlecry for Americans everywhere...
 
 FS>"Hiroshima Day" would be in celebration of the mammoth saving of
 FS>lives thanks to the dropping of the atomic bomb!

 LL> Americans do not celebrate death.  Nor do Americans want to celebrate
 LL> death.  Americans are about life.  And celebrating life.  Not death.
 
But, Lee, "Hiroshima Day" would be the celebration of LIFE!   Of 
lives saved by dropping two bombs!

 >LL>Not to mention the hundreds of thousands more
 >LL>who died as a result of radiation poisoning in the decades since.
 >LL>Notice that no other nation on Earth has dropped nukes on cities.
 >LL>There is a reason why.
 
 >FS>Because *we* have more of them ...
 
 >LL>Reducing the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons is what is needed.
 
 FS>Right.  The United States should be the only nation with nukes
 FS>then there could be *true* peace on earth!

 LL> America should ensure that nukes are never used anywhere on Earth.
 LL> And the best way to do that is to see that all nukes around the world
 LL> are turned in to the United Nations.  Including those nukes in
 LL> America. With no nation in possession of nuclear weapons, peace on
 LL> Earth will have then become a reality, rather than a mere fantasy.

The UN is a worthless organization.  The entire world should 
destroy their nukes -- leaving the U.S. with the only supply as 
*we* have demonstrated we know how to use them responsibly ...

... A diva who specializes in risque` arias is an off-coloratura soprano

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