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Skriven 2004-12-06 10:53:28 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
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BF>> VH> So we SHOULDN'T have fought the Nazis?

BF>>If it had been another countrys internal affair, no, but this certainly
BF>>wan' the question here.

 VH> Are you saying we shouldn't have fought the Nazis?

As this wasn't another countries internal affair you did the right thing.

BF>>And when DID you join? Was it in -41 or -42? What took you so long?

 VH> That would make us in action about 60 or more years before Sweden, right?
 VH> :-)

Why do you almost always answer a question with a counterquestion?
Is it because you don't have any answer?

BF>> VH> Because both nations collaborated with him.

BF>>You don't think we are collaborating with USA now?

 VH> No -- you've been trading with nations that sponsor terrorism.

And here you know what you are talking about?
If your statment is right, then USA sponsor terrorism.

BF>>And have done so for over 50 years though we are neutral. We have had two
BF>>planes shot down by the Russians due to that!

 VH> Two?  A whole 2 airplanes?  Wow!

Considering we are neutral and information from one of those planes went
straight
to USA.....

BF>>Did you know THAT?
BF>>Are you still saying that we didn't do nothing?

 VH> Yes.  I say you did nothing -- so what if a couple of your planes wandered
 VH> into Soviet airspace, or vice versa.

You really don't know a shit about it, do you?
As you said to me, don't comment on things you have no idea about.
They were shot down over international water in the Baltic Sea.

 VH> You did so little that TWO planes looks like a lot to you. :-)

For a small country like Sweden it is.

BF>>Our military *is* training with NATO forces and we have signal-tracking
BF>>plan in the Baltic Sea sending all info to Pentagon. How does that rime
BF>>with beei neutral?

 VH> It rhymes with "doing as little as possible and making zero sacrifices in
 VH> the common cause."

That's your way to see it....

BF>>Just exactly in what did we collaborate with Hitler? If you are reffering
BF>>to the trains that was allowed to pass that has beeing said
BF>>WAS a misstake. What else?

 VH> You traded with him.  You watched your neighbors -- Norway and Denmark
 VH> overrun and didn't lift a finger to help.

You are still commenting on things you don't know a shit about.
We helped a lot of Danes and Norwegian resistance-fighter to come here but I
guess you are only speaking (did I spell that right) about a wareffort.


BF>>I just remembered that Swedis Air Force has been fighting in Congo with a
BF>>division of J 29 "the flying barrel" back in, IIRC, the 60's.

 VH> Wow!  Next you'll actually be making faces at the enemy.  What heroism!
 VH> What sacrifice!

Whatever I say isn't just enough for you, you still make fun of us.

BF>>How many times do I have to tell you that Sweden doesn't have an army to do
BF>>such things?

 VH> How many times do I have to tell you that is YOUR fault?  Raise and equip
 VH> a decent army and do your share.

Sigh. With what money?
Everything doesn't revolve around having ab army just because you say so.
There are other matters in life then to fight.

BF>>BF>>I do undersatand that people get killed.

BF>> VH> No, you don't -- when you've been wounded a couple of times, when
BF>> you'v VH> seen men next to you kill, THEN you'll understand.

BF>>That's about what I said, wasn't it?

 VH> So now you claim you HAVE been in combat?  You HAVE been wounded and HAVE
 VH> seen men next to you killed?

What is it with you? Haven't you by now heard that I haven't? BUT I do have
empathy and symphaty with those who have.

 VH> Did you read that we shot down thousands?  "A few" simply won't cut it --
 VH> you slacked, skulked, and traded with the enemy -- even while your
 VH> neighbors were being overrun.

This is really getting on my nerves.
We were neutral and didn't have an army that could do anything about it and
niether had Poland, Norway OR Denmark and why Hitler didn't invade Sweden
you have to take up with him. I simply don't know.

 VH> Mostly in battalion to regimental size units (Vernon Walters, one time UN
 VH> Ambassador from the United States was the laison officer with a Brazilian
 VH> battalion in Italy during WWII.)

And then Brazil took on many Nazis so they could hide there.
Why didn't you do anything about that?

 VH> Now, that means they sent thousands more troops than Sweden did.

I have never heard of any Brazilians in WWII but Australians and are they
in Iraq now?

BF>>You still haven't explained what the collaboration was. Only beeing
BF>>condemning.

 VH> I've mentioned trading with the enemy many times.

Is that all you can came up with?
You don't think you have to be more specific?

BF>> VH> And that makes it all right?  It's okay for them to commit crimes like
BF>> VH> this?  You endorse terrorism?

BF>>No but YOU are fighting in THEIR country and they do whatever they find
BF>>necessary to defend it from an intruder.

 VH> So you ARE endorsing terrorism -- and pretending war criminals and
 VH> terrorists are patriots defending their country!

They are defending what they believe is right and you are invading a country
for reason you believe is right.
Only time can tell who was right.

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