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Text 6068, 90 rader
Skriven 2004-12-10 11:50:05 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
   Kommentar till text 6054 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
Ärende: Breaking News!
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 FS> That was one soldier who complained.  Furthermore he was from either a
 FS> reserve or National Guard unit.  They *typically* don't have the best
 FS> equipment.

Still, you send soldiers to a war who aren't fully equipted wheter they are
reserve or National Guard.

 BF>> His answer was:" You go to war with the army you have and not with the
 BF>> one you would like to have". What does that tell the rest of the world?

 FS> It tells the world that we do what we *must* do and do the best we can
 FS> with the military equipment we have.  There is *never* a perfect time to
 FS> go to war.  In this case the belief was that Saddam posed a real threat
 FS> and we *had* to neutralize him.  It turned out he wasn't as great a threat
 FS> as was thought but *ironically* he *tried* to give the impression he was
 FS> immediately dangerous and it was that which brought him down.

It tells ME you are jeopardizing the lives of your own soldiers.

 BF>> Where are all the Rambo:s?

 FS> I don't know ... do you?

mmmmm....... where the rest of USA should be...... in Hollywood.

 FS> You leave out the most significant feature of that namely that when they
 FS> refused another eight took identical equipment and did what was ordered
 FS> with no problems whatsoever.  Furthermore what military can stand if its
 FS> soldiers refuse to obey orders?

You have said that you never take any risks and that was perhaps what these
soldiers felt.

 BF>> 5 are sueing USA for not letting them go home after fulfilment of their
 BF>> contract.

 FS> And their chances are considered *zero*!  I can understand their
 FS> frustration as *I*, too, would be frustrated to be in Iraq longer than
 FS> originally intended.  However I was frustrated being in the Army during
 FS> WWII, but just "sucked it up" as they say.  Our modern generation doesn't
 FS> seem to be willing to sacrifice for a worthy goal.

Can they be seeing it from my poit of wiew?
Nothing is worth to sacrifice my life for.

 BF>> But I guess that someone of you will say that this is also anti-American
 BF>> propaganda

 FS> It is when you don't tell the *whole* story ...

Neither you or I know the whole story.

 BF>> and have never happend since it was only on TV and said by a corrupt
 BF>> Minister that doesn't know a thing about it and the fact that I just
 BF>> can't prove it.......and hey,

 FS> Huh?  What are you talking about.  What you've mentioned was widely
 FS> broadcast on the Fox News Channel.

What I said about Laila Freiwalds and N379P was widely broadcasted on the
Swedish news that's also available via sattelite here in Europea and no one
listned to that.

 BF>> Rumsfelt wasn't even in Kuwait. That was an illution.

 FS> Huh?

Just like Laila Freiwalds, remember....

 BF>> May I ask if someone of you have lost anyone in Iraq?

 FS> I don't even *know* anyone over there ...

Guess that that makes it easy for you.

BF>> If you have, do you still think it's worth it?

 FS> We must defend ourselves.  George W. Bush is doing the proper thing.  Just
 FS> as we defended ourselves successfully against the Germans and Japs during
 FS> WWII.

Actually, there wasn't any real threat against US soil (excep from Pearl
Harbour) so
you did then and are doing now is to fight on enemy soil and that isn't exactly
what
I call to defend one self, if you get what I mean.

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