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Skriven 2004-12-15 20:47:00 av RICHARD HELM (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BJÖRN FORSSTRÖM
Ärende: Breaking News!
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On 15 Dec 10, BJöRN FORSSTRöM wrote to RICHARD HELM:
on the subject: Breaking News! 

 RH>> They are NOT my comrades and what the two that "claim" you are right
are
 RH>> dealing with what happened long before the UCMJ was created.  Any old
 RH>> bastard that continually refers to enlisted as "swine" isn't much of
one
 RH>> to count on for creditability on military matters.

 BF> Ohhhh.......

That is correct.

 BF>>> Not to take pictures applys to anywhere where the military is.

 RH>> You're grasping for straws.  The FACT is that to own a camera and
take
 RH>> pictures with a camera by a military person is NOT in violation of
ANY 
 RH>> US
 RH>> law.

 BF> I have sent a question to our military to ask if it's against any 
 BF> "war-laws" to take pics.

You're accustomed to premissive laws.  We have restrictive laws.  In the
United States, anything that is not specifically outlawed or regulated is
permitted.  Your country leans toward giving permission to do common things
and anything not permitted is outlawed.

  BF>>> Do you think that even every policeofficer knows about every law
in 
  BF>>> the
 BF>>> law- book? Was it your job to know every regulation? Many had
cameras 
 BF>>> and
 BF>>> took pictures and many policeofficer do drive over speed limit so
what?

 RH>> Straw grasper.

 RH>> You WANT your version to be true and are willing to reject any view
that
 RH>> opposes yours.  If there is any truth in what you claim about members
of
 RH>> the military taking pictures, you should be able to provide a
verifiable
 RH>> cite in US Code.  IOW Put up or shut up.

 BF> See above and what I'm refering to is the opinion of your own 
 BF> "expert". Why can't you prove to me it's according to the rules to 
 BF> take pics. Why should I believe you just because *you* say so?


See above.  In the United States laws restrict, not permit.  That "export"
is one of your creation, not mine.  

 F> Like you say to me: Put up or shut up.

Sorry, you lose.  You make the "positive" statement, you support it with
evidence.

 F>>> If there wasn't any who reported those who took pictures to JAG, then
 F>>> naturally he haven't heard of it.

 RH>> Grasping at straws.  They weren't reported because there is no laws
to
 RH>> violate.

 F> Why don't you prove that then?

Prove a negative?  Get real.

 F>>> Why don't you try to find out if it's against the law to take pics.
 F>>> instead of trying to fool yourself?

 RH>> Why downy YOU provide a cite s bit better than some shit that you
seen 
 RH>> on
 RH>> Swedish TV?

 BF> Who are the best to look it up? You must be better then me to search 
 BF> an American
 BF> site but perhaps you wouldn't like what you might find, and I only 
 BF> have a dial-up
 BF> so it isn't that intresting for me.

You are arguing the point.  It must be of some interest.  

 RH>>>> Either you misunderstood what was said on that TV program or you
have
 RH>>>> allowed your prejudices to over rule logic, or both.

 BF>>> I understood what he said and it was even translated to Swedish.

 RH>> In that case "he" lied to you and you took it.

 BF> Then comes the next questions.
 BF> Are all your military "experts" liers? And why would he lie?

Then you are lying when you claim to have understood.  You didn't
understand and are failing to communate what you think you understand. 
Since you have already made up your mind, based on prejudices you have
against Americans, there is little reason to consider you or your biased
opinions worthy of comment.  

You're not prepared to support your accusations with verifiable cites, but
are willing to claim knowledge based on a 5 minute sound bite seen on
Swedish TV and ignore any words based on over 20 years of personal
professional experience.   

Richard 
 rlhelm@radiks.net
 http://rlhelm.home.radiks.net

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