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Skriven 2004-12-16 21:06:00 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av RICHARD HELM
Ärende: Breaking News!
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Hello Richard,

>AH>The Marine had no idea whether the man was hiding a grenade,
>AH>or was otherwise booby-trapped.

>LL>All of the prisoners in the mosque were disarmed.  Including the
>LL>prisoner who was shot and killed.  Furthermore, the Marine knew there
>LL>was no hostile intent before he shot the man dead.  Remember, there
>LL>were eyewitness accounts, including that of a cameraman who took the
>LL>video.

RH>That is a lie.

Are you calling Kevin Sites (the cameraman who took the video) a liar?

RH>Those Marines entered that mosque while engaged in hostile fire.

Of course they did.  But only on the first day.  After securing the
prisoners in a mosque, the Marines left.  With nobody guarding the
prisoners.  The next day, the Marines returned, not being engaged in
hostile fire.  Upon re-entering the mosque, the Marines harrassed
the prisoners, killing one of them in cold blood.  All the while
Sites was taking video.  For all the world to see.

>LL>Guess who disarmed the prisoners?  The same Marines who entered the
>LL>mosque.  Guess who interviewed the prisoners?  The same Marines who
>LL>entered the mosque.

RH>That is a lie.

Are you calling Kevin Sites a liar?  My, my.  Perhaps you should read
his blog before saying anything.  That way, you would at least know what
this thread is all about.  Here's the url -

http://www.kevinsites.net/

The article is titled "Open Letter to Devil Dogs of the 3.1"

>LL>Was the man who was shot booby-trapped?  No.  How did the Marines
>LL>know he was not booby-trapped?  The Marines had disarmed all of the
>LL>prisoners, including the one who was shot and killed.

RH>That is not true.  You are a lying bastard.

Well, I guess that means you are not calling Kevin Sites a liar,
making him out to be a "lying bastard" instead.

>AH>Neither do you.

>LL>The rules of engagement require soldiers to determine hostile intent
>LL>before using deadly force.  Aside from breathing, nobody observed the
>LL>man in the mosque making any movement at all.  And that includes the
>LL>Marine who shot him dead.

RH>You don't know what "Rules of Engagement" are.

Ah, but Lt. Col. Bob Miller does, as quoted by Kevin Sites.  ;)

RH>You're making this shit up on the fly.

Read Kevin's blog.  It's a real eye-opener.  :)

>AH>With the situation as it is in Iraq, with suicide bombers and
>AH>booby-trapped bodies, the wise track is to assume that is the case
>AH>with every enemy you come across, until he shows otherwise.

>LL>What's that?  Shoot 'em all, let God sort 'em out?  I thought you had
>LL>better sense than that.  You know the rules of engagement.  And so do
>LL>our soldiers.

RH>Bullshit. Alan doesn't know the rules of engagement that those Marines
RH>were operating under and neither do you.

You should be on Comedy Central.  Lt. Col. Bob Miller knows very well
what rules of engagement the Marines are supposed to be operating under.
That is why Sites quoted him on his blog.  ;)

>LL>Iraqi man in the mosque was a non-combatant.  And yet, the Marine
>LL>executed him.  In cold blood.  On camera.  For all the world to see.

>AH>War is hell.

>LL>So is murder.  Especially for the one who is murdered.

>JH>third, you don't even know if the guy was an Iraqi or not.

>LL>The news media reported the man in the mosque was Iraqi.

>AH>Iraqi or not, he was an enemy combatant.

>LL>And a non-combatant.  One who showed no hostile intent when
>LL>a Marine shot him dead.

RH>You can only guess, asshole.

Cameras do not lie.  And neither do videos.

--Lee


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