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Text 7003, 105 rader
Skriven 2005-01-05 22:58:32 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Jeff Binkley (1:226/600)
Ärende: Tsunami Disaster Relief
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That is unfortunately the problem with team sports. If our guy is in office, he
can do no wrong. I have no doubt if Clinton had pledged little in the outset,
it would be a prudent step in the later build up.

Jeff Binkley -> Gary Braswell wrote:

 GB>> Why is it embarrassing to Americans?

 GB>> Because another country did more as a percentage of their GNP than
 GB>> we?

 GB>> Who is getting the food there now?

 GB>> Is the Japanese Navy there in force and the JDF handing out the
 GB>> supplies? Is the Japanese Air Force dropping food and medical
 GB>> supplies to remote areas? The Indonesian military is not known for
 GB>> its humanitarian practices. I can see them risking their lives to
 GB>> save the same people they kill, can't you?

 GB>> How about the rest of the list?

 GB>> Why don't you put the effort forward to include the cost of a battle
 GB>> group being there and operating on a large scale and growing? You
 GB>> seem to have gone to great pains to work out the math if it looks bad
 GB>> for the US, be fair, figure in those costs as well.

 GB>> How do we know if the Japanese will even pony it all up? Even the UN
 GB>> stated don't get too exited, often nations go back on their pledges.
 GB>> We have the example of the 1st Gulf War for that.

 GB>> Heck, some of these countries hit ran out into the streets en masse
 GB>> to celebrate us getting hit in 9/11.

 GB>> I wonder how they would have felt if we emptied our homes celebrating
 GB>> their people getting annihilated by an act of God. There are concerns
 GB>> that some of these radical groups may decide to take advantage of US
 GB>> forces being there to shoot them.

 GB>> I'd say we are doing pretty good.

 JB> If a democrat were president, this wouldn't be an issue.  Folks like Lee
 JB> are only out to make the president and the US look bad.  They forget
 JB> (except when convenient) that we spend close to $500B a year on the
 JB> military to keep the world safe.  As for being embarrassed or ashamed,
 JB> liberals live in that state.  They are ashamed to be US citizens.


 JB> Jeff


 GB>> LEE LOFASO -> ALL wrote:

 LL>>> Hello Everybody,

 LL>>> Here is an updated look at major government pledges, according
 LL>>> to the United Nations and Associated Press bureau reports,
 LL>>> towards tsunami disaster relief donations (in millions) -

 LL>>> JAPAN                  $500
 LL>>> UNITED STATES          $350
 LL>>> NORWAY                 $183
 LL>>> FRANCE                 $103
 LL>>> BRITAIN                $ 95
 LL>>> SWEDEN                 $ 75.5
 LL>>> SPAIN                  $ 68
 LL>>> CANADA                 $ 67
 LL>>> DENMARK                $ 66
 LL>>> CHINA                  $ 64
 LL>>> AUSTRALIA              $ 47
 LL>>> NETHERLANDS            $ 32
 LL>>> EUROPEAN COMMISSION    $ 31
 LL>>> GERMANY                $ 30
 LL>>> SWITZERLAND            $ 23.5
 LL>>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES   $ 20

 LL>>> Of course, if compiled as a percentage of the GNP of each
 LL>>> country, the rankings are much different.  But let's not go
 LL>>> there.  It's too embarrassing for Americans.

 LL>>> However, we can do a comparison on a per capita basis.  For
 LL>>> example, Japan has a population of about 120 million people, and
 LL>>> the United States has a population of about 300 million people.
 LL>>> Per capita, that makes Japan spending $4.16 per person for
 LL>>> disaster relief, while the United States spends $1.16 per person
 LL>>> for disaster relief.  IOW, the Japanese spend four times as much
 LL>>> as Americans towards disaster relief for tsunami victims.  The
 LL>>> ratio is even worse when comparing Scandinavian countries (such
 LL>>> as Norway, Sweden and Denmark), with the United States...

 LL>>> --Lee


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