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Text 7102, 122 rader
Skriven 2005-01-06 05:21:00 av Jeff Binkley (1:226/600)
     Kommentar till en text av Gary Braswell
Ärende: TSUNAMI DISASTER RELIEF
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It is disgusting that the entire event is being politicized at all.


Jeff


GB>That is unfortunately the problem with team sports. If our guy is in
GB>office, he can do no wrong. I have no doubt if Clinton had pledged
GB>little in the outset, it would be a prudent step in the later build
GB>up.

GB>Jeff Binkley -> Gary Braswell wrote:

GB> GB>> Why is it embarrassing to Americans?

GB> GB>> Because another country did more as a percentage of their GNP
GB> GB>> than we?

GB> GB>> Who is getting the food there now?

GB> GB>> Is the Japanese Navy there in force and the JDF handing out the
GB> GB>> supplies? Is the Japanese Air Force dropping food and medical
GB> GB>> supplies to remote areas? The Indonesian military is not known
GB> GB>> for its humanitarian practices. I can see them risking their
GB> GB>> lives to save the same people they kill, can't you?

GB> GB>> How about the rest of the list?

GB> GB>> Why don't you put the effort forward to include the cost of a
GB> GB>> battle group being there and operating on a large scale and
GB> GB>> growing? You seem to have gone to great pains to work out the
GB> GB>> math if it looks bad for the US, be fair, figure in those costs
GB> GB>> as well.

GB> GB>> How do we know if the Japanese will even pony it all up? Even
GB> GB>> the UN stated don't get too exited, often nations go back on
GB> GB>> their pledges. We have the example of the 1st Gulf War for
GB> GB>> that.

GB> GB>> Heck, some of these countries hit ran out into the streets en
GB> GB>> masse to celebrate us getting hit in 9/11.

GB> GB>> I wonder how they would have felt if we emptied our homes
GB> GB>> celebrating their people getting annihilated by an act of God.
GB> GB>> There are concerns that some of these radical groups may decide
GB> GB>> to take advantage of US forces being there to shoot them.

GB> GB>> I'd say we are doing pretty good.

GB> JB> If a democrat were president, this wouldn't be an issue.  Folks
GB> JB> like Lee are only out to make the president and the US look bad.
GB> JB> They forget (except when convenient) that we spend close to
GB> JB> $500B a year on the military to keep the world safe.  As for
GB> JB> being embarrassed or ashamed, liberals live in that state.  They
GB> JB> are ashamed to be US citizens.


GB> JB> Jeff


GB> GB>> LEE LOFASO -> ALL wrote:

GB> LL>>> Hello Everybody,

GB> LL>>> Here is an updated look at major government pledges, according
GB> LL>>> to the United Nations and Associated Press bureau reports,
GB> LL>>> towards tsunami disaster relief donations (in millions) -

GB> LL>>> JAPAN                  $500
GB> LL>>> UNITED STATES          $350
GB> LL>>> NORWAY                 $183
GB> LL>>> FRANCE                 $103
GB> LL>>> BRITAIN                $ 95
GB> LL>>> SWEDEN                 $ 75.5
GB> LL>>> SPAIN                  $ 68
GB> LL>>> CANADA                 $ 67
GB> LL>>> DENMARK                $ 66
GB> LL>>> CHINA                  $ 64
GB> LL>>> AUSTRALIA              $ 47
GB> LL>>> NETHERLANDS            $ 32
GB> LL>>> EUROPEAN COMMISSION    $ 31
GB> LL>>> GERMANY                $ 30
GB> LL>>> SWITZERLAND            $ 23.5
GB> LL>>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES   $ 20

GB> LL>>> Of course, if compiled as a percentage of the GNP of each
GB> LL>>> country, the rankings are much different.  But let's not go
GB> LL>>> there.  It's too embarrassing for Americans.

GB> LL>>> However, we can do a comparison on a per capita basis.  For
GB> LL>>> example, Japan has a population of about 120 million people,
GB> LL>>> and the United States has a population of about 300 million
GB> LL>>> people. Per capita, that makes Japan spending $4.16 per person
GB> LL>>> for disaster relief, while the United States spends $1.16 per
GB> LL>>> person for disaster relief.  IOW, the Japanese spend four
GB> LL>>> times as much as Americans towards disaster relief for tsunami
GB> LL>>> victims.  The ratio is even worse when comparing Scandinavian
GB> LL>>> countries (such as Norway, Sweden and Denmark), with the
GB> LL>>> United States...

GB> LL>>> --Lee


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