Text 7593, 110 rader
Skriven 2005-01-18 06:31:14 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 7563 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Ww 2
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Ed Hulett -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 EH> Gary Braswell -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 EH>>>>> They were more brutal and murderous in some cases. Re: The rape of
 EH>>>>> Nanking. How Bjorn could be so blind to how truely evil the
 EH>>> Germans and
 EH>>>>> Japanese were only shows how the Europeans have been lied to for 60
 EH>>>>> years by their leaders.

 GB>>>> The atrocities of the Japanese boggle the mind. In retribution
 EH> for the
 GB>>>> Chinese helping Dolittle's men out of Japanese-held territory,
 EH> they went
 GB>>>> on an orgy of murder and killed over 100,000 Chinese.

 EH>>> The ironic thing about it all is that the Japanese and Chinese have
 EH>>> common ancesters. It wasn't a racist thing, it was just wanton
 EH> brutality.

 GB>> The Japanese Imperial Army were trained with blows. Low ranking men
 EH> were
 GB>> slapped repeatedly or savagely beaten by their superiors for not
 GB>> measuring up to expectation. Whereas the US military would demand
 GB>> pushups, miles run or some other repetitive and uncomfortable task,
 GB>> Japanese would beat their men often into unconsciousness and broken
 EH> bones.

 EH> They also lied to them about what the enemy would do to them if they
 EH> surrendered. They were told that the enemy was a lower form of life than
 EH> they were, too.

 GB>> When you are beaten all the time, its easy to transfer that hate and
 GB>> pain to those of less power than you.

 EH> Exactly.

 GB>>>> During and after the Bataan Death March, the Japanese went on a
 EH> rampage
 GB>>>> killing over 200,000 innocent people because some people tried to
 EH> throw
 GB>>>> food and water to the allied troops being marched to death.

 EH>>> The allied troops, after seeing this happen over and over, tried
 EH> to tell
 EH>>> the Philipeanos along the way not to risk their own lives yet they
 EH> just
 EH>>> kept trying to get food and water to the troops.

 GB>> Brings a tear to the eye.

 EH> I watched a show on the History Channel about the Bataan Death March and
 EH> listening to what the survivers had to say about it was depressing.
 EH> Seeing them tell their stories was heart wrenching.

 EH> Right now on The Military Channel is a program on Bataan.

 GB>>>> I highly recommend Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking. It came a
 EH> out a few
 GB>>>> years ago with new information that the deaths went to far larger
 EH> levels
 GB>>>> than first thought.

 EH>>> I have read exerpts from it.

 GB>>>> There is a picture there that haunts me and I cannot get out of
 EH> my mind.
 GB>>>> A beautiful Chinese woman, naked and tied to a chair out in the open
 GB>>>> with he legs tied wide open so she could be casually raped by any
 GB>>>> Japanese so inclined. I was eating at the time I first saw the
 EH> pic and
 GB>>>> became ill.

 EH>>> The Japanese were animals. They did things no human should do to even
 EH>>> animals let alone doing it to other humans.

 GB>> I agree. Its astounding to me that a culture so ingrained with
 GB>> appreciation for beauty, gentle and quietly philosophical could be so
 GB>> callously brutal.

 EH> It was their idea that they were a superior people that allowed them to
 EH> treat the Chinese and allied POWs with such distain.

 GB>>>> At least the German people came to grips with their past. The
 EH> Japanese
 GB>>>> are still in denial. They do not burden their history books with
 EH> such
 GB>>>> things.

 EH>>> They dwell on the nuclear bombs the US dropped on them and
 EH> conveniently
 EH>>> ignore the atrocities they perpetrated on others.

 GB>> You are exactly right.

 GB>> Many Japanese soldiers who were guards on the various allied POW camps
 GB>> still see nothing wrong with what was done to the allied POWs.

 EH> Some have come forward and admitted they were wrong, but not enough of
 EH> them. Their generation is slowly fading away.

 GB>> My father told me he held no hatred towards the Japanese of today, but
 GB>> he wished he had killed more of the bastards back then.

 EH> I have heard the same from other vets from the Pacific theater.

There was a show on yesterday on Cabanatuan and the covert mission to rescue
our POWs.  Is that the one you are referring to?  Grim stuff.

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