Text 8055, 68 rader
Skriven 2005-01-26 15:06:58 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 8053 av Darryl Perry (1:106/324)
Ärende: Re: fighting terrorism.
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26 Jan 05 13:05, Darryl Perry wrote to John Hull:

 DP> On 01-26-05, John Hull said...

 JH>> 26 Jan 05 09:17, Darryl Perry wrote to John Hull:
 JH>> 
 JH>>  DP> On 01-26-05, John Hull said...
 JH>>  JH>>  DP> Of course.  I never said they owned the oilfields.  I 
 JH>>  JH>>  DP> only said that the US
 JH>>  JH>>  DP> and US companies had interests in those countries.  
 JH>>  JH>>  DP> However, it amounts to
 JH>>  JH>>  DP> the same thing.
 JH>>  JH>> 
 JH>>  JH>> I've known several people over the years that worked in the 
 JH>>  JH>> Saudi oil fiel They made tons of money, but it was damned 
 JH>>  JH>> hard work, and they were mostly restricted to the compounds 
 JH>>  JH>> set up for foreign workers by the Saudi gov't. is dangerous 
 JH>>  JH>> work, and those countries could slam the door on the oil 
 JH>>  JH>> companies at any time, putting all our citizens working 
 JH>>  JH>> there in extreme danger.  Those people don't want us there, 
 JH>>  JH>> but they need our expertise to their oil fields functioning, 
 JH>>  JH>> so they tolerate us.  Does that sound like i amounts to the 
 JH>>  JH>> same thing?  I don't think so.
 JH>> 
 JH>>  DP> It kinda puts creadance to my statement tho.  Why are we 
 JH>>  DP> there if it isn't for the oil and by extention, the money 
 JH>>  DP> that it brings in.  the companies are willing to pay lots of 
 JH>>  DP> money to the workers, they m be making lots of money in 
 JH>>  DP> return.
 JH>> 
 JH>> Its all relative.  First of all, the money they make consulting 
 JH>> and managi is but a fraction of what they made when they still 
 JH>> owned the show, prior nationalization.  Secondly, are you aware of 
 JH>> how difficult it is to find qualified people who are willing to go 
 JH>> to a foreign country where they are wanted, actively hated and 
 JH>> often attacked and/or killed, away from their families for two 
 JH>> years at a stretch, and can't have the sort of amenities are 
 JH>> commonplace in the US?  Those oil companies have to pay huge wages 
 JH>> - t free - to get people to take on that kind of risk.  If you've 
 JH>> paid attenti at all to the news, most of the people being kidnapped 
 JH>> in Iraq and Saudi a other places in the mideast are contract 
 JH>> workers just like I'm talking abo

 DP> I don't know if you notice, but you keep making my point for me.  
 DP> It's extremely hazardous work, and the oil companies pay really well 
 DP> for it. Would any of the workers put themselves through all that, and 
 DP> would the oil companies pay all that if they weren't getting a bigger 
 DP> return on the back end?  And if the oil companies are willing to do all 
 DP> that then they definately have an interest in those regions.

No, I'm not making your point.  By my standard and maybe yours, its a lot of
money; but by oil company standards its chump change.  Its enough that that
there is a profit, but the money they get from those operations is miniscule
compared to what they make from oil fields they own, even in the US.  Remember
too, that since 9/11 they have cut way back because of the threat to their
people.  Not amount of profit is worth losing good wildcatters, managers, and
geologists.  And, more and more of those workers who ARE over there are opting
out of their contracts early and not renewing them.  We used to have a fair
presence in both Iraq and Iran in years past, after WWII.  Not any more, and
they've been cutting back slowly in Saudi for years.

John 

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