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Skriven 2005-01-27 02:39:09 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 8039 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
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Björn Forsström -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 EH>>>> It is very possible that the tests gave an incorrect finding. What
 EH>>>> should be done, then?

 BF>>> I don't know how accurate this tests are but I have no reason not to
 BF>>> believe in them.

 EH>> Oh, I see, you have no clue that there's a cliff there, but you just
 EH>> blindly walk on.

 BF> If you don't believe in the accuracy of them, why do you believe in the
 BF> accuracy of the DNA tests?

Not all tests are accurate.

 BF> What's the difference between these tests and a DNA test?

DNA tests are 97.9% accurate. Some tests to find out if the unborn will be
normal are much less accurate. Many doctors do not rely on such tests.

 EH>>>> Just recently, an abortion advocate found she was pregnant with
 EH>>>> triplets. She had 2 of them removed because she didn't want to be
 EH>>>> burdoned with three babies at one time. *THAT* is wrong on so many
 EH>>>> levels.

 BF>>> I fully agree with you.
 BF>>> And here in Sweden I think that that can never happend, unless there is
a
 BF>>> threat against the mothers life.

 EH>> Hmmmm... I see, so it is harder in Sweden to get an abortion, but you
 EH>> disparage America for what you "believe" about our laws?

 BF> This is funny.

I've been laughing at your stuff for a while now. Glad you finally caught up.

 BF> When I finally agree with you, you still keep bullying me.

When have you agreed with me? And, when have I bullied you? It is impossible to
bully anyone in this type of forum.

 BF> And what I SAID was that I don't think it's allowed here to remove two out
of three
 BF> unless there is a threat against the mothers life. I never said anything
 BF> else.

And? Your point?

 BF>>>>> It wasn't me who said anything about the child beeing a rapist. A only
 BF>>>>> asked what should be done if the baby is the result of a rape.

 EH>>>> Like I said, the baby isn't the rapist, so why punish it? If the mother
 EH>>>> doesn't want it, there are millions of couples just waiting to adopt.

 BF>>> Can you have that emphaty to put yoursel in that womans position?

 EH>> Can you have empathy to put yourself in the baby's position?

 BF> As usual you answer with a counterquestion.

"As usual?" Try to keep up.

 BF> No, I cant have empathy to a "life" that really isn't a life. It only has
a DNA and
 BF> so does a flower and I can't have empathy with a flower eiter.

A baby *IS* a life. So is a flower.

 BF>>> Perhaps it's impossible for her because of her religion or otherweise to
 BF>>> give birth to a rape-child.

 EH>> Show me what religion(s) would advocate aborting an unwanted child.

 BF> Perhaps I expressed myself a bit wrong.

Perhaps.

 BF> Can she in some religions be taken for a whore when giving birth to a
child
 BF> that's not her husbands?

They still wouldn't advocate aborting the child. You are all over the map in
your attempt to justify murder.

 BF>>> What would you say if your wife was raped?

 EH>> I'm not married. That said, I wouldn't advise her to kill the child
 EH>> because some jerk raped her. The child did nothing to her.

 BF> Have you ever been so you could put yourself in that posision?

Hey, I am not the subject here.

 BF> Having your wife carrying a child that's a result of a rape. Well, I
haven't
 BF> been there either so I don't know how I would react but I think I would
 BF> have told her to remove it.

You don't appear to value life much.

 BF>>> What is it then we hear that abortion-clinics are burned down in USA?

 EH>> The government doesn't burn them down. Those that are burned down are few
 EH>> and those who burn them down are always prosecuted.

 BF> OK.

 BF>>>>> Now how could I when all you do is to condemn what I say without any
 BF>>>>> axplanation of how it works in USA.

 EH>>>> It's rather easy to find out. It isn't up to me to educate you.

 BF>>> But you do educate me when I do a typo so why not now?

 EH>> When have I educated you on a typo? I think you have me confused with
 EH>> someone else.

 BF> Fair enough but you do find it plesant to educate me when it suits you.

Huh? Are you saying that it isn't pleasant to educate someone?

 EH>>>> Abortion is legal here in the states and it is the mother's choice to
 EH>>>> make even to the extent that underage girls can have one without
 EH>>>> informing their parents that they are even pregnant.

 BF>>> OK. In all states?

 EH>> Yes, all states. In 1973 the US Supreme Court decided on a case titled
 EH>> "Roe v. Wade" that struck down all state laws making abortion illegal.

 EH>> The dicsion was based on junk legal opinion, but it remains law. Some
 EH>> states have gone on their own and made abortion legal by passing laws
just
 EH>> in case Roe v. Wade is someday struck down.

 BF> Thanks for the education.

You are welcome. Oh wait, I shouldn't find it pleasant...

 BF>>> Here you did some education though.

 EH>> Pay close attantion to what I have to say. Not all of it is merely my
 EH>> opinion.

 BF> It's a bit difficult for me to understand when it's your opinion or not
when you
 BF> aren't reffering to any facts.

It isn't up to me to lead you by the hand here.

If you can't discern fact from opinion you need more help than I can give you.

Ed

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