Text 8521, 75 rader
Skriven 2005-02-03 12:54:00 av Darryl Perry (1:106/324)
   Kommentar till text 8517 av John Hull (1:106/324)
Ärende: Re: Unborn
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On 02-03-05, John Hull said...
 
JH> 03 Feb 05 08:41, Darryl Perry wrote to Ed Connell:
JH> 
JH>  DP> On 02-02-05, Ed Connell said...
JH> 
JH>  EC>> Hey, Darryl.
JH>  EC>> 
JH>  EC>>  EC>> DP> Yeah, all the way back to Jesus Christ.  The original 
JH>  EC>>  EC>> DP> liberal, a certainly a wack-job =P
JH>  EC>>  EC>>
JH>  EC>>  EC>> As a Christian, I am puzzled by your characterization of 
JH>  EC>>  EC>> Jesus.
JH>  EC>> 
JH>  EC>>  DP> In what way, beyond the obvious sarcasm?
JH>  EC>> 
JH>  EC>> I cetainly didn't take it that you believe that Jesus is a 
JH>  EC>> wack-job.  On t other hand, the implication is there, and I think 
JH>  EC>> you do believe it, that conservative cannot be a follower of 
JH>  EC>> Christ.  That is what puzzles me sinc I consider myself both.
JH> 
JH>  DP> oh, I certainly believe that a conservative can be a follower of 
JH>  DP> Christ, but I havn't seen too many instances of it.
JH> 
JH> Come on, Darryl, do you really expect us to believe that?  In order for th
JH> to be true you must never have heard the term "Christian Right" or noticed
JH> that most of the Christian bashing is coming from the left.  That's been 

I've never heard that particular term.  I've heard of the "Moral Majority",
and the "Religious Right", but not the "Christian Right".  Also, it's one
thing to say you are a follower of Christ, but another to actually BE a
follower, ie his teachings.

JH> reported on as well.  Every time we turn around, some ACLU liberal is fili
JH> suit to get prayer squelched somewhere, or prevent a Nativity scene from b
JH> put up at Xmas, or get the 10 Commandments removed from the wall of a cour
JH> house.  It isn't so much that they've reported on Christian bashing as the
JH> have appearing to support it.

You patently forgot to mention that all those areas were public areas, not
private areas.  Forced prayer in school is ok if it is a private school. 
I've got stories that a friend of mine was telling me.  She got relocated
here to the bible-belt of Houston like I did, and now her child is being
castigated for not participating in the required prayer time at his school. 
The militant right strikes again!  Courthouses are places of Justice, and
justice is supposed to be blind.  Our country was founded with the bill of
rights which is a proclimation of how justice can best be served for our
people.  The 10 commandments are not of the 10 ammendments.  If anything
should be place at the courthouse, it's the Bill of Rights.

JH> This country was founded by Christians of various denominations who left 
JH> England because they didn't want to be forced to pray in the state sponsor
JH> Church of England.  That's why the 1st Amendment carries a prohibition aga

Your words: "Not wanteing to be forced in to prayer" still holds true.
Freedom FROM religion is as fundimental as freedom OF religion.  Nowhere in
that 1st Amendment does it say that a citizen MUST adhear to ANY religion.

JH> state-sponsored religion.  It says NOTHING, however, about requiring a 
JH> separation of church and state.  That phrase was lifted from a private let
JH> that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a Baptist minister, and even then it is lif
JH> out of context.

Regardless, there is NOTHING in the Constitution and the Bill of rights that
guarantees that one religious factor can elevate their agenda over another.

Christian tho the FF's may have been, the Country they founded was no a
country based on religion.

Gryphon, aka Darryl Perry
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