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Skriven 2005-02-10 15:08:00 av THURSTON ACKERMAN (1:10/345)
     Kommentar till en text av JOHN HULL
Ärende: RE: Proud Democrat
==========================
JH>08 Feb 05 00:05, THURSTON ACKERMAN wrote to MY KID BROTHER LAWYER:

JH> ->>snipped<-
JH> VH>>TA>VH>When you kill people and attempt to suppress their religion,
JH> VH>>TA>VH>it doesn' matter what you call it, it's wrong.

JH> VH>>TA>I certainly agree qith your point; especially since such action
JH> VH>>TA>would also be unconstitutional (nothing herein should be
JH> VH>>TA>construdied as a confession of contributuing to the death of
JH> VH>>TA>anyone, desevering or not!-)

JH> VH>>The point being, it isn't an official "war" he sent troops to -- it
JH> VH>>was something far worse, the suppression of the religious rights of
JH> VH>>American citizens.

JH> VH>>I think I stand vidicated on my assertion that all US presidents
JH> VH>>have committed troops.

JH> VH>>TA>VH>The US government passed laws confiscating all church
JH> VH>>TA>VH>property over $50,000, depriving polygamists of citizenship,
JH> VH>>TA>VH>and so on.

JH> VH>>TA>Marriage is a matter of contract law; not of religion of course.
JH> VH>>TA>If one
JH> TA>                ^^
JH> VH>>TA>breaks the law, one must expect to pay a penalty for such
JH> VH>>TA>illegalities.

JH> TA> Please note I was useing the present tense. The various
JH> TA> commentaries
JH> TA> did prompt me to refreash my ageing memory by visiting:

JH> TA>   www.law.cornell.edu/topics/marriage.html

JH> TA> Which starts its legal observations: "In English law tradition....
JH> TA> a marriage was a contract based on a voluntary private agreement
JH> TA> by a man and a woman to become husband and wife...."; and much
JH> TA> more legalize you may also appreciate when you visit the site.

JH> TA> Massachusetts Title III, Chap. 207, Sec. 38, establishs who may
JH> TA> be authorized to solemize a marriage in the Commonwealth I am in.

JH> TA> There are citations for every other jusidiction in the USA you
JH> TA> may wish to familarize yourself with.

JH> VH>>There's a slick way of justifying suppression of civil rights!

JH> TA> My kid brother lawyer (who spent a few decades in the USA Justis
JH> TA> Dept.
JH> TA> (before being forced retirement during the Nixon missdeeds several
JH> TA> years ago 8-( has taught me to never apply slick ways to civil
JH> TA> rights!

JH> VH>>Are you saying the Catholic Church, for example, must accept
JH> VH>>divorce and remarriage?

JH> TA> The Catholic Church can not prevent a divorce of a couple (whether
JH> TA> or
JH> TA> not they may have participated in the initial somelization of a
JH> TA> given
JH> TA> legal marriage contract or not); but the priest or deacon may not
JH> TA> be
JH> TA> forced to solemize a marriage they may object to (as they did in
JH> TA> the
JH> TA> case of my grandson and his Catholic baptized bride last Oct. 16th
JH> TA> because he had not been baptized a Roman Catholic; so their
JH> TA> marriage
JH> TA> was solemized by a woman minister in her father's Methodist Church
JH> TA> 8-(

JH> TA> Or are troops to be used to force the Catholics to change
JH> VH>>their doctrine?

JH> TA> Fortuanately our troops are fully occupied surpressing Islamic
JH> TA> facists
JH> TA> at the moment in Iraq, where our Constitution does not prevent
JH> TA> same.

JH> TA> I shall be quite busy the next few days celebrating the win of our
JH> TA> New England Patriots National Football League Championship again
JH> TA> for
JH> TA> this year; so I am sure your will comprehend why I probably won't
JH> TA> be
JH> TA> available for future discussions regarding marriage (and I will
JH> TA> then
JH> TA> be busy celebrating my own 63 wedding anniversity in a couple
JH> TA> weeks 8-!

JH>Did you really think it was necessary to send this three times?

I tend to be inclusive rather than exclusive; so I didn't want to
slight anyone who had participated in this thread.

Ciao, Ack.
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