Text 8979, 194 rader
Skriven 2005-02-11 05:04:34 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 8970 av Ed Connell (1:379/1.6)
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11 Feb 05 02:26, Ed Connell wrote to STEVE KEMP:

 EC> Hey, STEVE.

 EC>>> EC>> SK> Dems believe in things like caring for the poor, and 
 EC>>> EC>> SK> womens rights, and anti-racism. You know, those non-sexy 
 EC>>> EC>> SK> things

 EC>>> EC>> I know better.  The question is do you really believe that 
 EC>>> EC>> or are you just spreading propaganda?

 EC>>> SK> I know that!

 EC>>> SK> At least THIS Democrat stands for same.

 EC>>> What do you do that shows that you care for the poor?  Anything 
 EC>>> that trumps having them live with you?

 SK>> Both of those question are nothing but taunts. Figures.

 EC> What makes you say that?  You claim to stand for something, and I 
 EC> just am 
 EC> asking if you walk the walk.

 SK>> To the first question...I build low cost housing for poor 
 SK>> families. And I work with institutions to offer them the lowest 
 SK>> interest rates available.

 EC> Okay, that isn't so bad is it?  You do something.  Do you work 
 EC> with some organization which has such a goal, or what?

 SK>> To the second question...huh? The only person that lives with me 
 SK>> is my wife and she grossed 69K last year.

 EC> That's fine.  I'm not saying that having someone move in with you 
 EC> is required.

 SK>> And, no, I don't think that I must move homeless people into my 
 SK>> modest home. For that wouldn't help them in reality.

 EC> No one is saying that you must.

 SK>> Now...what have YOU done for rich people? You voted for Bush!
 SK>> BWAHHHH!!!

 EC> I don't know that many rich people.  Well, some are rich by some 
 EC> standards, 
 EC> but they don't consider themselves rich.  This family we go see 
 EC> just about 
 EC> every weekend has made quite a bit telling Amoco where to drill, 
 EC> and he has 
 EC> invested in quite a bit of real estate.  I'm his friend of 42 or 
 EC> so years. 
 EC> I guess being a friend is what I do.

 EC>>> Womens' rights?  Hmmm.  Do you think women have more rights than 
 EC>>> men?

 SK>> That's a stupid question. But then...look who asked it.

 EC> Why is asking what you think stupid?  I don't know you that well, 
 EC> but you 
 EC> come in here blowing and going.  I'm just trying to see where you 
 EC> stand.

 EC>>> Different rights?  Hmmm.  I don't think the constitution
 EC>>> differentiates  women and men when it comes to rights.

 SK>> It didn't when women and black didn't have voting right either, 
 SK>> now did it!

 EC> The question is does it now?  If not, as I think, should it?  I 
 EC> say no, but 
 EC> maybe you have a good answer.  Haven't seen one yet - at least not 
 EC> a really 
 EC> good one, but maybe you will surprise me.

 EC>>> Anti-racism.  Does this mean that you do something to reduce the
 EC>>> amount of  racism?  What do you do about racism anyway?

 SK>> I'm anti-racist, foo!

 EC> My, you seem to get excited at the least little thing.  Are you 
 EC> sure 
 EC> politics is for you?

 SK>> I protest at Klan gathering,

 EC> I can't remember the last time I saw a Klan gathering.  Where do 
 EC> you find 
 EC> these gatherings?

 SK>> I hand out literature, I believe in and advocate anti-racist 
 SK>> education,

 EC> This literature promotes a person's not being racist?  I assume 
 EC> that by 
 EC> anti-racist education, you mean some kind of classwork in schools. 
 EC>  What 
 EC> sort of thing do you promote?

 EC> If someone were to ask you why racism is bad, what would you tell 
 EC> them?

 SK>> and I try to talk people like you into another mind set.

 EC> People like me?  Why should I have a different mind set?

 EC>>> I guess the question is, do you just stand for these principles 
 EC>>> or do you do something?

 SK>> I do as much as I can within my day while still having a life.

 SK>> My nights are devoted to doing the same. Arguing with
 SK>> racist/fascist/misogynists like you! ;)

 EC> Careful now or you will talk me into a different mindset. <g>

 SK>> Any MORE questions?

 EC> I guess not.

 SK>> Oh, and tell me what rank you are in the KKK, dude.

 EC> Right.

 SK>> Seriously though...what do YOU do for the U.S. and the world? 
 SK>> Anything?

 EC> Well, we serve dinner here at our house once a week.  One typical 
 EC> week, I took a picture of everyone.  The birthplaces represented were 
 EC> Japan, South Texas, Georgia, New Hampshire, Canada, South Florida, 
 EC> Alaska, North Dakota, Bulgaria, Hawaii, Mozamique, Trinidad, and New York 
 EC> City.

 EC> Last summer there were some nursing students living here from the 
 EC> Marshall Islands, Mexico, and Indonesia and a girl who visited most days 
 EC> and who I regularly take to the airport and pick her up is from Belize.

 EC> There were several different races in those groups.

 EC> I set up a fellow from Nigeria with two accounts on one of my 
 EC> Linux servers so that he and his students could learn how to create web 
 EC> pages.

 EC> I teach students from Angola, Indonesia, Camaroon, Mexico, 
 EC> Colombia, Peru, Brazil, Kenya, South Africa, Bulgaria, Barbados, 
 EC> Dominican Republic, Korea, Canada, China, Panama, Nigeria, India, and Hati

 EC> as well as those from all over the United States.

 EC> Right now one of the guys living here is half Iraqi.

 EC> I played Santa for a group of motorcyle clubs who sponsored a toy 
 EC> run and gave toys (three trips though line each) to more than one hundred
 EC> poor kids. I didn't need a fake beard nor a pillow. <G>

 EC> I gave several hundred dollars to a girl whose parents had split 
 EC> and neither was helping her with her education.  She needed to pay her 
 EC> school bill.  And I gave almost two hundred to a girl from Madagascar who 
 EC> said that her parents were sick and she needed some money that they 
 EC> couldn't provide. Also, I gave almost four hundred dollars to an 
 EC> Indonesian girl who needed some remedial work in preparation for a 
 EC> nursing test.  Also I let her drive my car up to Dallas every day.

 EC> My older son spent seven years in Japan teaching people to speak 
 EC> English. He married a Portuguese girl from South Africa.  He just 
 EC> completed a masters in linguistics at the University of North Texas, and 
 EC> wants to spend his life teaching English as a second language.

 EC> My younger son implements and maintains the web site for a 
 EC> international group of professional women.

 EC> But I'm a right-wing, extremist; conservative through and through. 
 EC>  Just think what I could do if I were a liberal Democrat like you. <g>  
 EC> It bugs me that conservatives are stereotyped as heartless misers who 
 EC> would run down their mothers for a financial advantage, but we have to put

 EC> up with such from people like you.

Ed, your generosity puts most everybody here to shame.  I know, too, that you
aren't bragging just to impress Mr. Kemp.  The bottom line though, is that
unlike most liberals who make a great show of being generous and compassionate,
you really are.  We, and your students, are lucky to have you.  I'm proud to
call you a friend.


John 

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