Text 9186, 95 rader
Skriven 2005-02-19 11:31:18 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 9185 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Keyes and his daughter
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19 Feb 05 07:29, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to LEE LOFASO:

 TR> On 02-18-05, LEE LOFASO said to TIM RICHARDSON:

 LL>>Hello Tim,

 TR>>(snip)

 TR>>There wasn't any reason for Keyes to go "railing against the 
 TR>>Catholic Church during the clergy sex abuse scandal".


 LL>>The Catholic Church was not entirely innocent in the matter.


 TR>>It wasn't "the Catholic Church" that sexually molested minor boys, 
 TR>>it was homosexual pedophiles who saw in the Catholic Priesthood a 
 TR>>way to bring themselves into close contact with their prefered 
 TR>>`sexual targets; minor boys.


 LL>>Many bishops covered up the sex acts of priests, re-assigning those
 LL>>priests to other parishes, paying off victims and their families, 
 LL>>etc. It was not until the Pope called them to task that bishops 
 LL>>started cleaning up their act.


 TR> "Many bishops" is not "The Catholic Church". Any "bishops" who 
 TR> took steps that covered up the crimes, and only `transfered' offenders to 
 TR> other Parish's, are culpable, and should be tried as accessories after 
 TR> the fact.


 TR> President Nixon didn't have to resign for actually being `guilty' of 
 TR> participation in Watergate crimes; he was forced to resign for being an 
 TR> accessory after the fact, in that when the situation was unfolded to him 
 TR> in the Oval Office, he took part in (even tailored at some point) a
 TR> massive cover-up and payoff of those who `were' guilty of participation.


 TR> And its no different here. A bishop who has a priests' criminal 
 TR> pedophilia activity brought to his attention is duty bound to submit that 
 TR> priest to civil law. If he does not do so, he is guilty of participation 
 TR> after the fact, and should be prossecuted for such.


 TR> But that still is not "The Catholic Church"; that is only a bishop 
 TR> `of' that church.

It went a lot higher up than just the local bishops, Tim.  How many of those
bishops over the last 50 years have been elevated to cardinals and even higher
in the church hierarchy?  Those bishops couldn't have gotten away with sweeping
it under the rug unless *their* bosses were ignoring it as well.  I remember
when the crap hit the fan over this in San Diego (I was still living there
then).  The same sort of thing (coverups right up the line) happened in
Springfield, IL when I was living there.  

The church is much like the military in the way its command structure works. 
The Commanding General is the Pope, and so on down to the local parish priest.
The CO at each level is responsible for whatever his troops do, even if he
doesn't know about it at the time it happens.

 TR>>Why is everyone afraid to call it what it is; homosexual pedophilia? Oh 
 TR>>wa that would put the *homosexual community* in its proper light, 
 TR>>wouldn't it sexual perversion, practiced by sex perverts. I see. Gotcha!


 LL>>It's more than a case of individuals being perverts.  The pedophelia 
 LL>>scandal was systematic, and had gone on for decades.  Nothing was done 
 LL>>about it until the media focused on the issue, forcing the Pope to get 
 LL>>involved.


 TR> Which only demonstrates how widespread homosexual pedophilia really is.

Just playing devil's advocate here.  Is it really as widespread as we've been
led to believe by the media?  I remember not too many years ago how the media
made used a lot of ink claiming that child porn through the mail was running
rampant in the US.  Nobody could ever seem to come up with any numbers on how
many, who, and where it was coming from - not anything credible anyway.  We
didn't find out till several years later that a very large portion of the stuff
was brought in, and used by, the Post Office Inspector General's office to
entrap people.

Not saying it isn't happening or that we shouldn't stomp all over it when we
find it, only that its a lot less than we've been led to believe.  


John 

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