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Skriven 2005-02-24 00:31:00 av THURSTON ACKERMAN (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av JOHN HULL
Ärende: HAVE YOU SEEN CATCH 22 OR
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JH>22 Feb 05 14:01, THURSTON ACKERMAN wrote to JOHN HULL:

JH> JH>>22 Feb 05 00:04, THURSTON ACKERMAN wrote to HOWIE COOMBE:

JH> JH>> HC>>Dear Thurston, in regards to this message to Me.

JH> JH>> HC>> > HC> Have you seen Catch 22 or The Counterfiet Traiter?.

JH> JH>> HC>> >  I recall Catch 22 a long time ago;


JH> JH>> HC>>It is an old movie about the insanity of war, which, being a
JH> JH>> HC>>Practical Pacifist, i like.

JH> JH>> TA> I identify with your Practical Pacifist position; but how do
JH> JH>> TA> you think we then we otherwise contend with the Hitlers of the
JH> JH>> TA> last century  and the Husseins of today's?

JH> JH>>Only fools or cowards are pacifists.  History has shown us exactly
JH> JH>>what happ to pacifists.  The textbook example Chamberlain and
JH> JH>>Hitler.  Because he went try to pacify Hitler instead of standing up
JH> JH>>to him, Hitler overran Europe an subjugated millions of people.

JH> JH>>Now, the pacifists did their best to keep Saddam in power, despite
JH> JH>>the sickening evidence of his brutality and penchant for murder.

JH> TA> Except I missed the proclamation where the USA was devined to be
JH> TA> the Judge, Jury and Warden for the rest of the world. If it is so,
JH> TA> we should really get over to the Sudan and take care of our dire
JH> TA> responsibilities there before we go on to Iran, etc..

JH> JH>>Yeah, Thurston, pacifists really make the world a great place to
JH> JH>>be, don't they?

JH> TA> Having participated in two wars I can't promote it as an
JH> TA> alternative as a great place to be in either.

JH>Where did I say anything about the US being the world's cop?  We're talking
JH>about pacifism.  As bad as the situation in Sudan is, it is still a civil wa
JH>It isn't a case of them providing aid and comfort to terrorists, or one coun
JH>invading another, etc.  And, we are already providng billions in humanitaria
JH>aid to Sudan and other areas in that region of the world.

JH>What more do you want?

Thanks you for asking John. I want US to return to our rule of law
foundation and only attack when attacked.

History teachs that war is an institution of the Old World.
They have spent generations of Old World peoples warring to
seize land and power from one another for centuries.

We the People believe otherwise (after our europeon immigrant
ancestors seized this land from the native inhabinets0 they
found here of course 8-(

We defeated the Soviet-commonists without "shock and owe"
and we can do it again when we decide to forgo some modern
amenities (like SUVs stuck in traffic in city traffic, etc.)
and keep our young folks home working to produce products
we need for a satisfactory life for the progeny they produce.

I think we would easily succeed in that effort if we stopped
purchaseing petroleum products offshore by an acclaimed program
of 10% less each month until the Old World realized where the
$$$ the use to buy Japanese cars, etc. came from.

Ciao, Ack.

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