Text 9256, 130 rader
Skriven 2005-02-24 06:33:28 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 9237 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: conservatives giving
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23 Feb 05 22:47, Gary Braswell wrote to John Hull:

 John Hull ->> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>> 22 Feb 05 23:38, Gary Braswell wrote to TIM RICHARDSON:

 GB>>> TIM RICHARDSON -> GARY BRASWELL wrote:
 TR>>>> On 02-22-05, GARY BRASWELL said to JOHN HULL:


 GB>>>>> Thinking that concentrating on conservative friends who work at
 GB>>>>> very conservative companies, I passed the document onto them. I
 GB>>>>> also
 TR>>>> posted it
 GB>>>>> at where I work.

 GB>>>>> Its been two weeks now.

 GB>>>>> I was sure the stuff would begin to flow in from one company 
 GB>>>>> that a
 TR>>>> friend
 GB>>>>> works for. They have 80 people in his division and a vast
 GB>>>>> majority are conservative who actively send patriotic items 
 GB>>>>> around the internet, staunch Bush supporters, they only allow 
 GB>>>>> Fox to be shown in the lunch room, very vocal about their 
 GB>>>>> beliefs, etc. My friend there was also certain of the response, 
 GB>>>>> he got 3 boxes ready. He emailed everyone there

 GB>>>>> with the document and posted it. As of today, not one item or 
 GB>>>>> one penny has come from a single conservative in the office.

 GB>>>>> The only person to contribute oddly enough is the only known
 GB>>>>> (openly liberal) liberal in the office. He contributed to it
 GB>>>>> immediately with a

 GB>>>>> nice check. Another office I sent it two was of a friend who is
 GB>>>>> probably the most conservative person I know. He is also quite
 GB>>>>> generous. He is constantly on me all the time for my moderate
 GB>>>>> views.

 GB>>>>> He posted and emailed it at his office.

 GB>>>>> Its been two weeks now and nothing, nada. The firm is painfully
 GB>>>>> conservative. Bobby sent a very generous check himself and said
 GB>>>>> he was ashamed of the lack of response in his office.

 GB>>>>> A neighbor who saw me with the documents, asked to see one. He 
 GB>>>>> is one of those rare beasts, a liberal who was in the Army. He 
 GB>>>>> never saw
 TR>>>> action, but
 GB>>>>> asked if he could keep it.

 GB>>>>> He works at a college. A college that has had on more than one
 GB>>>>> occasion anti-Bush rallies. I thought nothing would come of it.

 GB>>>>> So far its been a large response. Not in money of course with
 GB>>>>> starving students, but goodies.

 GB>>>>> Now what am I trying to say here? Conservatives are fakes?
 GB>>>>> Tightwads?

 GB>>>>> Nope. Many of you here I know are quite generous.

 GB>>>>> What I am saying is that the liberals I see in here, day in and
 GB>>>>> day out, generically described as evil, idiots, thieves, liars 
 GB>>>>> and against the troops are helping out our troops.

 GB>>>>> I know there are liberals out there who hate everything dealing
 GB>>>>> with the US, but not all are like that.

 GB>>>>> I also know now there are a lot of mouth-only conservatives out
 GB>>>>> there
 TR>>>> too.

 GB>>>>> And why? Because they are all human first.


 TR>>>> Look, you need to wise up to something;


 TR>>>> The war in Iraq is costing the U.S. taxpayer a pretty penny. We
 TR>>>> aren't only
 TR>>>> paying for the combat units doing the actual fighting, we are 
 TR>>>> also paying for
 TR>>>> the training of the `new' Iraqi military force, doing most of 
 TR>>>> the training of
 TR>>>> them, and also paying and supplying much `infrastructure'.


 TR>>>> I saw a breakdown of the tax funds from each city and state in 
 TR>>>> the U.S. just
 TR>>>> today, and I thought of it immediately I read this little whine 
 TR>>>> of yours.


 TR>>>> Of the funds that have gone to pay the *many* facets of the war 
 TR>>>> in Iraq, 26.2
 TR>>>> billion of it came from the state of California (thats 
 TR>>>> *Billion*, with a "B").


 TR>>>> Broken down to cities and counties, 2.2 billion (again;
 TR>>>> Billion....with a "B")
 TR>>>> of that tax revenue came right from San Diego County.


 TR>>>> We already `gave at the office' (of the local IRS).

 GB>>> I don't have to wise up to anything.

 GB>>> And I did not ask you for a single thing.

 JH>> Then why are you whining about how conservatives haven't 
 JH>> contributed? Because that's exactly what it sounds like from where 
 JH>> we sit.

 GB> Try reading it again.

I did read it, just to make sure I was getting it.  You are talking about
individuals who happen to be liberal or conservative, and everybody else is
talking about liberals and conservatives as a group.  Liberals are not noted
for their generosity unless something accrues to them in the process.  Some
advantage.  And it still sounds to me like you're giving liberals a pass.  

John 

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