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Skriven 2005-03-11 15:21:47 av Howie Coombe
     Kommentar till en text av John Hull
Ärende: HAVE YOU SEEN CATCH 22 OR
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Dear John, in regards to this message to me.

 > 06 Mar 05 17:03, Howie Coombe wrote to John Hull:

 > HC> Dear John, in regards to this message to Me.

 >>> 02 Mar 05 18:56, Howie Coombe wrote to John Hull:

 >>> HC> Dear John, in regards to this message to Garry Braswell.

 >>>>> 27 Feb 05 22:01, Gary Braswell wrote to THURSTON ACKERMAN:

 >>>>> GB> THURSTON ACKERMAN -> GARY BRASWELL wrote:

 >>>>> GB>>> THURSTON ACKERMAN -> JOHN HULL wrote:> aid to Sudan and other

 >>>>> JH>>>>> What more do you want?

 >>>>> TA>>>> Thanks you for asking John. I want US to return to our rule of

 >>>>> GB>>> A pre-emptive attack is always on the table and should be. If we

 >>>>> TA>> Where is the information that Iraq was going to invade the USA?

 >>>>> GB> None of course, but that does not mean preemptive attacks should be

 >>>>> TA>>>> History teachs that war is an institution of the Old World. They

 >>>>> GB>>> War is almost as old as mankind. War used to be mostly

 >>>>> TA>> I understand that. Some of my Anglo ancestor came here becaause

 >>>>> TA>>>> We the People believe otherwise (after our europeon immigrant

 >>>>> GB>>> Migration again.

 >>>>> TA>>>> We defeated the Soviet-commonists without "shock and owe"

 >>>>> GB>>> What world were you living in? Korea and Vietnam were surrogate

 >>>>> TA>> I am reasonably sure I have been living and fighting in this world

 >>>>> Most of the French troops at Dien Bienphu were Foreign Legion.

 >>> HC> And you know this because you were there?.

 >>> It is documented history,

 > HC> Aha.


Which documents exactly?.

 >>> that's how.

 > HC> And you believe everything you read in History books?, or only in

 >  Most of the history books you find in schools are full of revisionist      
> crap.


Some contain facts, some contain just opinions of either there Conservative or
Liberal Writer, some contain All the facts, some contain only the relivent
facts from either a liberal or a conservative POV, i tend to try to read the
ones with All the facts.

 > I'll bet yours are no different than ours in that respect.


Yes we do have biased books as well.

 > There are many different sources one can use to get the real story,


Yes there are.

 > and cross reference it to make sure it isn't some jackoffs wet dream of     
> what happened.


Cross refference the writer as well as the book?.
   
 >>>>> They didn't cut and run.

 >>> HC> I put it to you that if you were there you were on there side and as

 >>> I put it to you that you need to do some serious reading.

 > HC> Some people who know me would suggest the exact opposite, i spend too

 >>> Your grasp of history is woefully inadequate.

 > HC> My Grasp of History is just as strong as yours, it is just different,

 > Only if you include the PC versions.


If by PC you mean i dont read "History Book"s that sing the prases of Nixon and
George Bush Sr or Jr, you are wrong, however i also read and note books that
Talk in glowing terms and not so glowing terms of JFK, Bill Clinton, Bob Hawke,
John Howard, Paul Keathing, Sir Robert Menzies, and Don Dunstan, a lot of whom
you have never heard of.

 >>>>> They were overrun by superior forces.

 >>> HC> Superior or just stubborn?.

 >>> Both.

 > HC> On this we can agree.

 >>>>> The French lost Indochina because they underestimated the willingness

 >>> HC> Patriotism can make a person do, say and think some crazy things,

 > HC> No Comment?, i will that as an agreement on your part.

 >  Don't ever make the mistake of putting words in my mouth.


So that is a no?, pity i would have like the answer to be yes, or at least
definitive.

 > If I don't answer something,


Yes?.

 > all you can assume is that I didn't answer it.


And that will let that question remain unanswered, and if i ask a question i
ask it to be answered.

 > Period.


Aha.

 > Some things don't deserve an answer,


If they are a question from me they deserve an answer, and to not answer them
is rude.

 > however.


IYO.

 >>>>> GB> And we were facing the USSR and China behind both wars. Stalin

 >>>>> There were Russian pilots flying MIGs in both Korea and Vietnam against

 >>> HC> And again i suppose you are talking from personal knowledge?.

 > HC> No Further Comment?, i would suggest you spend less time retreating to

 >>>>> We had downed aircrew in Vietnam who were interrogated by Russian

 >>> HC> Were you one of them?.

 >>> Again, documented history.

 > HC> There are some things books can not tell you.

 >  Oh,


Yes?.

 > please.


Yes?.

 > You weren't there either,


And did not say i was however as i said i think a person should thoroughly
crossrefference both the writer and the book.

 > and anybody who doubts the word of people who were (as prisoners,


Yes?.

 > for example) and who SAW those Russian officers is a damn fool.


So you are suggesting i take the statements of any person who claims they
served in a theater of war as obviously the truth?, typical Conservative
thinking.

 >>>>> GB> In Vietnam there were Chinese soldiers on the ground and the USSR

 >>>>> GB> I'm sure Vern could probably shed more light on the Chicom guys.

 >>>>> GB> And sorry to hear of your son.

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