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Skriven 2009-03-18 00:33:00 av Bob Klahn (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av John Fitzgerald
Ärende: SADDAM AND TERRORISTS
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 JF>>   No, actually 9/11 did that.  Bush and almost everyone
 JF>>   else in the Whitehouse, Democrats included, finally said
 JF>>   enough and went after terrorists and those who sponsored
 JF>>   them, everywhere.  This included Saddam, who for eight
 JF>>   years Democrats were saying things like this about:

BK>>   Since that's all you have..

 JF>   Sorry, we have Saddams open support and sponsoring of
 JF>   terrorists which clearly showed the world he was willing
 JF>   to help them out, just as intelligence around the world
 JF>   has noted.

    We have no such evidence at all. The senate select committee
    report, phase ii, makes that clear.

 snipurl.com/phaseii

BK>>  ... and no evidence any of it was true it's absurd
BK>>   for you to  keep bringing it in.

 JF>   I've asked you, several times now, WHAT were Clinton's
 JF>   people reporting on, over and over, for eight years, and
 JF>   you still come up empty and won't answer.

 Why should I? What does that matter in 2003? By 2003 the UN
 inspectors were in full swing, and were discovering the WMDs
 didn't exist. See the senate committee report phaseii. Just look
 at the last set of conclusions.

JF>> "I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw

BK>>  Convinced does not make it fact.

 JF>   Denial doesn't mean it didn't.

 The senate committe report, a republican dominated committed,
 says it wasn't.

 JF>> evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors
 JF>> being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three
 JF>> hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks
 JF>> out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in
 JF>> April of 2003

BK>>  And did that actually happen?

 JF>   Clinton's intelligence people and others say yes.  Common

 Give me a link, a citation, the name of the people who were
 there. Is there an intel report supporting that?

 JF>   sense would also say Saddam did all he could to cover his
 JF>   tracks.  You have him standing their like some confounded
 JF>   stooge.

 Read the final set of conclusions in phaseii. He was desperately
 racing to destroy his remaining chemical weapons before the UN
 inspectors found them.

 JF>> "Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely
 JF>> dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and
 JF>> unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." --
 JF>> Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

BK>>  How would she know?

 JF>   Intelligence reports.

 The senate committe report phaseii says he did destroy the
 weapons.

 JF>> "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is
 JF>> seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted
 JF>> Kennedy, September 27, 2002

BK>>  How would he know?

 JF>   Intelligence reports.

 No, not really.

 JF>> "The community of nations may see more and more of the very
 JF>> kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons
 JF>> of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to
 JF>> terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all
 JF>> those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened
 JF>> tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton, 1998 --- Platinum

BK>>    And it turned out he was wrong.

 JF>   Where is your evidence?

 Uh... the fact that the WMDs did not exist. See the senate
 committee report.

BK>>   Big difference was, Bush had a
BK>>   chance to find out, and he didn't want to know.

 JF>    Yet you can't produce an excerpt/page number that
 JF>    confirms it, as I've requested from you several times
 JF>    before.

 See phaseii. See the conclusions, that's not that much to read.
 Look at the table of contents, it's got a good breakdown.

 Before you ask for any more references, download
 snipurl.com/phaseii.

 Since you have to have that to read the references, it's a waste
 of time to demand pages numbers if you can't read them if you
 have the numbers.



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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