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Skriven 2009-03-25 21:35:08 av JOHN FITZGERALD (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BOB KLAHN
Ärende: FEINSTEIN AND MILCON
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DD>  ...and reaps billions for Cheney's Halliburton,
DD>  Rumsfeld's Bechtel, and his own family's Carlyle group."

JF>   Don't forget Diane Feinstein's husband Richard Blum who
JF>   held major shares in two big defense contractors in Iraq

BK>   Yes, let's forget them, since they are a drop in Haliburton's
BK>   bucket. And let's not let you get away with a distraction on
BK>   this.

JF>   Hardly a drop.  Perini earned 1.7 Billion in 2005 alone.

BK>   Gross or net? And how does that compare to Haliburton?

JF>   "Gross or Net"??  As if this matters..

BK>  Yeah, it does.

 JF>   'Gross or net' does not factor into the moral aspects of
 JF>   doing business in Iraq as it pertains to Cheney and
 JF>   Feinstein.  Keep it straight.

BK>   It does factor into how much incentive Feinstein 
BK>   had to try to help her husband.

  You're sidewinding here.  Incentive wasn't the issue.  The ethics of 
doing buisness as concerns Cheney, Feinsterin was...and how Democrats 
rave about Cheney but don't even blink about Feinstein.

BK>    And nothing Feinstein did excuses 
BK>    what Cheney did.

  If you can't excuse Cheney, then don't try to write off Feinstein.



JF>>   democrats raved about Cheney and Halliburton, but when
JF>>   people like Feinstein and Soros are brought to their

BK>    Soros is not my problem.

JF>    The debate is not about your problem.  

BK>    Soros is neither an elected official, 
BK>    nor a democratic leader.

  Not elected, but still a leader in that when he snaps his fingers, 
Democrats stand at attention.  Everyone knows this.  Esp the Democrats
with their hands out.



BK>  Bush was all of our problem.

  Mostly the Democrat's, and ones of their own making.  Imaginary.
ie.'Bush lied'.  


JF>  It's about the way Saddamites are all 'ethical' about Cheney, 
JF>  but try to brush off Feinstein and Soros as you are 
JF>  attempting to do here.

BK>   Cheney was the Vice President of the United States. 
BK>   At the time you accuse Feinstein she was a minority 
BK>   member on the senate committee.

  She was ranking member of MILCON.


BK>    And you are using them as a distraction, 
BK>    not as a real issue.

  Nope, just using them to hold your feet to the same fire you're trying
to hold Cheney's to. 


BK>>  Feinstein is more yours, she is from  your state...

BK>   You're all over the map with pointlessness.  

BK>   Not as pointless as your mentioning Feinstein.

  Feinstein involves the same points you tried to make issue with with
Cheney.   If that's pointless, then so is all the barking at Cheney.


JF>    Again you can't crow about Cheney doing business 
JF>    in Iraq and Afghanistan if you can dismiss Feinstein 
JF>    and Soros.

BK>    Yeah, I can. 

   Oh sure, but who is going to think you're speaking from an ethical 
platform when you try to hang Cheney while you try to sidewind around 
Feinstein and Soros, except maybe the Choir with the same set of 
on/off ethics?


BS>   Soros is just another business man, 
BK>   not an elected official.

  You mean like Feinstein?  Soros is a Democrat poster boy and idol. 
Ignoring and/or making excuses for him is just as hypocritical as 
ignoring and/or making excuses for Feinstein.



 JF> Besides. Cheney retired from Halliburton in 2000, three
 JF> years before we entered Iraq and long before we were dug in
 JF> in Afghanistan.

BK>   Illusion! The administration started preparing for 
BK>   the invasion of Iraq long before the day of the invasion.

  And why shouldn't they have?  Clinton and co. for eight+ years 
insisted that Saddam was a major threat to security in the region 
and should be removed. They criticised Bush Sr. for not going into 
Iraq and removing Saddam, but when Bush does so they all wet in 
their panties.  We've been through this, Bob, and every time you 
come back to square one.  Scheech!  Catch on someday.
 


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