Text 10912, 59 rader
Skriven 2009-04-08 21:16:54 av Earl Croasmun (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Dave Drum
Ärende: Re: ACORN CORRUPTION
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~>  EC> To repeat, I haven't seen John criticize the organization even once for
~>  EC> doing what the law requires.  I have seen him discuss the doing of
~>  EC> things that the law forbids, but that is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE
~>  EC> of "what the law requires."  I realize I am repeating myself, but in
~>  EC> this instance it seems necessary.  Do you understand yet?
 
~> Excerpts from some of Fitzgerald's posts on the subject ... note that
many seem
~> to be from a macro, as they are identical

I know exactly what you mean by "macro," but if you had kicked Klahn around
in arguments for several years HE would have given you a silly and
superficial reprimand for using it.

~>  JF> 1.  ACORN has turned in more than 50,000 reg'forms, many
~>  JF> with forged signatures from ACORN workers, many have been

In this (and the other examples), I don't think he is criticizing the
"turned in" part but the "forged" part.

~> Using the word "caught" implies that ACORN is doing something wrong.

Forgery is "wrong."  And illegal.  And when it happens in a number of
different locations in a number of states, sometimes going into the tens of
thousands of instances, it is not just a rogue employee.

~> Certainly _some_ ACORN workers turned in bogus forms and were paid for those
~> forms by ACORN - 

Actually I believe that in some states it is illegal to pay people to go
out and get registrations.  It is also illegal in some states for an ACORN
worker to pay a REGISTRANT for REGISTERING (which sort of shoots a hole in
that "rogue employee doing it for the money" excuse).  And it is definitely
illegal in some states to hire convicted felons for the job. 

~> who then turned them in as the law requires.

As usual, that talking point got repeated by rote, and without the
qualifier of "in some states."

But you left out the talking point about ACORN "flagging" suspect
registrations.  Maybe that is because you realize that no one has come up
with even a rough guess of how many of the hundreds of thousands of bogus
registrations were so "flagged."

~> I can see that you are likely to try to stretch this into a series such
as you
~> had with Bob Klahn over your supposed misunderstanding of whether John
McCain

There was no misunderstanding, except for your lack of understanding of
what you read.

~> I will not engage in such a protracted discussion with you.

In the words of Clint Eastwood, "a man's got to know his limitations."
 
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