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Skriven 2009-05-22 20:53:32 av JOHN FITZGERALD (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av EARL CROASMUN
Ärende: Re-examining Torture ...
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->    Waterboarding is specifically defined as an act of torture. 
 
EC>   No, actually it isn't.
 
->    Really?  It was specifically made illegal since 1898.  
->    It was prosecuted as such in WWII as well as in Viet Nam.  

EC>   If you had been paying attention during the earlier threads on
EC>   this subject, you would know that the "water cure" of 1898
EC>   involved forcing a person to ingest large amounts of salt water
EC>   to the point of causing damage to internal organs.  And it was not
EC>   dealt with as torture, because that section of the USC did not
EC>   EXIST yet nor did the legal definition of torture.  It was the
EC>   subject of a court-martial.

EC>   As for the WWII example, it truly amazes me that you would make
EC>   a fool of yourself AGAIN by falling for the Yukio Asano myth
EC>   AGAIN!  He was prosecuted for a variety of things, including
EC>   stealing Red Cross supplies from prisoners, beating them, and
EC>    pushing lit cigarettes into their skin.  And the "water torture"
EC>   that they used included forcing a prisoner to eat uncooked rice,
EC>   forcing them to ingest large amounts of water, and then waiting
EC>   while the rice expanded and caused damage to internal organs.  
EC>   Another version involved forcing a prisoner to ingest large 
EC>   amounts of water and then jumping off a chair and landing  
EC>   feet-first on the prisoners distended stomach.  When you made 
EC>   these silly comparisons earlier it simply indicated that you did
EC>   not know what you were talking about.  Doing the same thing over
EC>   and over indicates that you don't CARE what you are talking about.

   If it was already illegal for the US to use it Obama wouldn't have
had to ban it.  If it was illegal, they wouldn't let characters like
Ventura be subjected to it...some one who got up, got over it in minutes
and walked away to talked about it.



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