Text 11728, 156 rader
Skriven 2009-06-02 19:25:12 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
  Kommentar till text 11694 av Dan Ceppa (1:138/666.0)
Ärende: Unfathomable
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Hello Dan!

01 Jun 09 21:08, you wrote to me:

 RC>> So if you worked from home, your furniture being your computer
 RC>> desk, a writing desk and a chair, how would you be breaking the
 RC>> laws if your comings and goings only entail you running the same
 RC>> errands you do now? (Grocery store, going out to eat, seeing a
 RC>> movie, visiting friends??)

 DC> Ross, get real.  I'm talkimg about excess truck deliveries, noise,
 DC> visits and the like.

I was *not* talking about that, I was talking about those whom work from home
for someone else, using such things as a computer and telephone. You are the
one whom ignored this and took it to an extreme.

 RC>> Painting a car is not the only aspect of fixing ones car or
 RC>> restoring one.

 DC> And, having your car torn apart is one of those things.  That is
 DC> illegal ' in most residential areas.  It can be so even in the
 DC> driveway.

Which is why many do so in the backyard, maybe behind a fenced backyard or in a
garage. I cannot believe you ever worked in the DIY auto parts business.

 RC>> I am not the one running out in left field with this extreme, you
 RC>> are and with a radical example. I presented a simple example and
 RC>> I did not include the word urethane, you introduced that.

 DC> It's called "an example", Ross.  Even the more standard acrylic paints
 DC>  carry high levels of VOCs which are illegal to emit into the
 DC> atmosphere.  And, try and find an enamel car paint.  That has been off
 DC> the market \for probably 20 yrs now.

What I presented was examples, you ran them up to extremes.

Someone restoring a 57 Chevy, you turned into spraying urethane.

Someone telecommuting, you turned them into a receiving dock.

 DC>> Has it occurred to you that I wasn't talking about simply making
 DC>> phone calls?

 RC>> Telecommuting isnt just about being on the phone or making phone
 RC>> calls, it is as generic as Xerox or Aspirin. A good bit of
 RC>> telecommuting involves using the computer over an internet
 RC>> connection, among other things. However I was the one whom was
 RC>> talking about telecommuting.

 DC> So what?  I gave you examples as to why certain business operations
 DC> would be illegal to run out of home. It's as simple.  The fact is
 DC> that not all home business are legal.

I am not interested in your examples, I presented benign examples and you
decided to twist them into malignant ones.

 RC>> Home Businesses are very legal, you are just wanting to take
 RC>> everything to the severe extreme.

 DC> Wrong again. Ross.  I gave you plenty of examples to demonstrate that
 DC> not all all home business are legal, which is the point.

Businesses that somehow meet your litmus test might be, I wasnt talking about
those. I never remotely mentioned those that met your so called examples.

 RC>> Ever hear the term SOHO..

 RC>> Its a term used to define (S)mall (O)ffice (H)ome (O)ffice.

 DC> Your under the very mistaken impression that you happen to knowledge
 DC> unavailable to others.

You sir are under the impression that your knowledge trumps my own, I have been
assisting these people for over a decade now.

Many of my customers work from home, some for themselves, most others for
someone else.

 DC>> Actually, they are.  They are using their house as office space
 DC>> that would otherwise have to be in some commercial building.

 RC>> LOL, not illegal.

 DC> Where did I state that was illegal? I simply stated that what they
 DC> are doing is substituting their home for office space that would
 DC> normally . I simply stated that in working out of their home, they
 DC> are running a busines, albeit not their own.

So you see it as wrong for someone to set aside a room inside their own house
to work out of, in this example, for someone else?

Someone who telecommutes:

Isnt contributing to traffic congestion or green house gas emissions from their
cars to the degree the rest of us do.

I will stipulate that someone receiving "Freight" on a daily basis, would be
crossing the line.

 RC>> By your logic, our schools shouldnt send children home with
 RC>> homework because their parents homes arent schools. I guess all
 RC>> those that are home schooling their kids are breaking the law,
 RC>> the home is not a school, not zoned for it.

 DC> You really off of the deep end.

If I am it is only because you led the way and dragged me with you.

 DC> Now, I suggest we both stop thes asides that you like ti throw out.  I
 DC>  have no problems with retorting them.  But, they clog the Echo with
 DC>  unnecessary chaff.

Maybe because of your dishonest debating tactics?

 RC>> Ah ran out of arguments did ya?

 DC> I already provided more than enough exceptions to demonstrate that not
 DC>  all home businesses are legal.

Your examples are in the the range I was referring to.

To have you describe it, people would no longer be able to do Avon, Tupperware,
Amway much less telecommute.

 DC> You want another one?  Prostitution is not legal.

and was I talking about that??

 RC>> Telecommuting is not just the telephone.

 DC> Ross, give it a rest.  I've got no need to run the gamut of each and
 DC> every variation just to suit your nitpicking.

I wasnt nitpicking, you were.

 RC>> If we could get the liberal whiny ass tree huggers to pipe down,
 RC>> maybe we could build more nuke plants and windmill farms.

 DC> That will still not solve the problem of "cheap coal" among other
 DC> toxic wastes from other industries that are dumped into the air
 DC> and streams.

and what do you suggest replace coal, I tossed out my suggestion, now it is
your turn?


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