Text 11947, 51 rader
Skriven 2009-06-11 15:44:44 av Earl Croasmun (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Bob Klahn
Ärende: RE: Re-examining Torture
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~>  That one has Neilsen's testimony, not just a description by
~>  someone else, and it is identical.

But now you know that what was done to him was not even CLOSE to
"identical."  He was FORCED to ingest water to the point that he passed
out.  He WAS drowning.  Then he was revived by being jumped on to push the
water out.

~>  EC> What he did describe was his REACTION to what
~>  EC> the Japanese did: he felt like he was drowning.  Gee whiz,
~>  EC> Bob, WHY did he feel that way?  It is because he WAS
~>  EC> DROWNING.  You have been educated several times on what the
~>  EC> Japanese "water cure" involved, and either it hasn't stuck
~>  EC> in your head or you are ignoring what you know in order to
~>  EC> cover your lies with a plea of ignorance.
 
~>  Now you are shooting off your mouth, or keyboard, and making
~>  yourself look foolish.

Nothing but empty bluster from you, and it doesn't change the facts.

~>  EC> Another ignorance plea from you.  He testified against four
~>  EC> officers.  They were convicted.  Now, try to overcome your
~>  EC> ignorance by naming the person or persons who were
~>  EC> specifically convicted of waterboarding him in a manner
~>  EC> "identical" to the CIA version of waterboarding.

~>  Which is irrelevant to the point we were discussing

Well, let's review what you were discussing: "You missed the fact that the
method often used is described in terms identical to the methods used by US
interrogators. And Japanese military were tried for war crimes for that."

And yet you cannot name them.

And more from you: "During WW2 both forms  were used by the Japanese, and
Japanese military personell, and some civilians, were prosecuted for using
the same method the US interrogators."

And yet you cannot name them.  Not only can you not show who was CONVICTED
for war crimes for using "the same method" that the US used on three
terrorists six years ago, but you cannot even show that ANY Japanese
interrogator EVER used "the same method" during World War II.  You will
make up some stuff, you will twist words, you will make sad little
accusations, but you are not likely to name any names.  You have been
proven wrong so many times that you seem to be gun-shy about making any
specific and factual claim.

 
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