Text 12995, 194 rader
Skriven 2010-04-30 18:57:24 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 12994 av Ross Sauer (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Glenn Beck and Rachel Maddow
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On 04/30/2010 03:26 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in
 RS> news:30134$POL_INC@JamNNTPd:

 RS>>>>> What is the biggest difference, between Glenn Beck and Rachel
 EH>>>> Maddow?

 RS>>>>> Easy. Glenn Beck panders to, and no doubt believes in, his own
 EH>>>> craziness.

 RS>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/lc8jpz

 EH>>>> You link to a video that was made up of various unrelated video
 EH>> and EH>> audio clips that have occurred over a long period of time.
 EH>> The clip EH>> takes them completely out of context.

 RS>>> Ok, here Beck is, in full context:

 EH>> Okay...

 RS>>> http://tinyurl.com/kwtynz

 RS>>> Now watch that, and just *TRY* telling me that isn't batshit
 EH>> crazy.

 EH>> He's not crazy. In fact, he now has the most watched show on cable TV.
 EH>> That was just announced today. Are you saying that all those millions
 EH>> of viewers are crazy?

 RS> All that artwork being part of Beck's "communist/fascist plot," is not
 RS> batshit crazy?

No, it isn't.

 RS> "Most watched show on cable TV?"
 RS> Bullshit.

Say all you want, but his show is now the most watched. His ratings are more
than all your favorite left-wingers combined.

 RS>>> Just today, Beck made a wild charge he never did back up.
 RS>>> "The U.S. government is turning into Crime, Inc."

 EH>> He's been outlining that on his Fox show all week. Look up the Chicago
 EH>> Climate Exchange (CCX) and where it got the seed money for its start
 EH>> up.

 RS> Since when is the Chicago Climate Exchange the entire US government?

Look it up. No one said it was the entire US government. Here's a clue, in 2002
when the Joyce Foundation gave CCX seed money, Barrack Obama was a board member
of Joyce. Joyce Foundation was set up by the widow of one of those hated lumber
barons and after her death, the conservators for the foundation started giving
more and more to left-wing groups. Joyce is one of, if not the major
contributor to the Tides Foundation. Tides is the child of that hated oil baron
George Soros.

 RS> Beck made yet another of his batshit crazy claims, and you bought it,
 RS> like the good sucker Beck counts on.

You have yet to argue against the actual issue he brought up. All you can do is
attack Beck and those who watch or listen to him.

 EH>> Also, investigate how many former Goldman Sachs execs are now working
 EH>> inside the Obama administration. You know, that "Evil" Goldman Sachs
 EH>> that is now being charged with doing the very thing Franklin Raines
 EH>> got rich doing while CEO of Fannie Mae? And why isn't Fannie or
 EH>> Freddie being investigated for their part in the sub-prime bundling
 EH>> scheme?

 RS>>> What evidence did Beck put forward to show our *ENTIRE*
 EH>> government is RS> "turning into Crime, Inc" ?

 EH>> Oh, and guess who is the 5th largest investor in CCX. I'll give you a
 EH>> clue, it's a British company founded by Al Gore and 3 former Goldman
 EH>> Sachs execs. Oh, and then GS also has a 10% stake in CCX. CCX looks to
 EH>> be set to reap several trillions, or at least hundreds of billions if
 EH>> and when John Kerry's Cap and Tax... errr, Trade bill gets passed.

 EH>> But that's all just a big coincidence, so never mind.

 RS>>> Nothing. He doesn't need to, suckers watching him believe him
 EH>> anyway.

 EH>> Right, that's all it is. Just a bunch of suckers and knuckle-draggers
 EH>> watching "der Fuhrer" (some idiot actually called him that) Beck.

 RS> WHO called him that?

Some moron at a little site called Crooks and Liars.

 RS>>>>> While Rachel Maddow on her show actually brings people she
 EH>>>> disagrees with, RS> yet stays calm and collected.

 EH>>>> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 RS>>> Thanks for the $10.

 EH>> Uh huh... sure you got ten bucks. You always make this silly claim
 EH>> which would make your former neighbor a blithering idiot if she
 EH>> continued to lose bets with you and keep on taking your supposed bets
 EH>> while taking the same side.

 RS> No, it's because you are totally predictable.

No, it's because you are a liar.

 EH>> You won $10 bucks just like your father posted those drunken,
 EH>> obscenity filled attacks on Hardegree. Just like you actually kicked
 EH>> your sister out of your dump of an apartment over her choice of
 EH>> musical groups.

 EH>>>> I could point you to clips of her losing her cool at the drop
 EH>> of a EH>> hat. But then, what's the point, you'd deny they happened.

 RS>>> Then do so. Show me.

 EH>> Just look at some of her lunatic commentary.

 RS> Thanks for admitting you have nothing.

I have as much as you do WRT Beck.

 RS>>>>> She had Rick Berman on:

 RS>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/23y6g3y

 RS>>>>> Tonight she had on the spokesman for the anti-immigrant hate
 EH>>>> group FAIR, RS> Dan Stein.

 RS>>>>> Again, she stayed calm, collected and let Stein rant and rave.

 EH>>>> So what? You are being extremely biased in your post here and
 EH>> it EH>> shows.

 RS>>> I stated facts. You don't like facts.

 EH>> No, you state left-wing propaganda. You make silly claims about Beck
 EH>> and then try to show Maddow as the paragon of virtue.

 RS>>> Here's Rachel Maddow and Dan Stein.

 RS>>> http://tinyurl.com/2a949jb

 EH>> So what?

 EH>> Try comparing apples to apples.

 RS> Well, you are totally out of your tree...

There you go... This whole thread started with your one sided commentary about
Beck and Maddow. You have continued this course and all you can do is say "is
too!"

 RS>>>>> Is anyone here still stupid enough to listen to Beck's radio
 EH>>>> show,
 EH>>>> or watch
 RS>>>>> his TV show? (Which BTW, has 1/3rd fewer ratings since
 EH>> January.)

 EH>>>> You haven't seen one of his shows. He is not a Republican and
 EH>> hovers EH>> somewhere between conservative and libertarian.

 RS>>> He hovers between batshit crazy and frothing lunacy.

 EH>> That is your opinion which is based on what you have been told and
 EH>> your loony political beliefs.

 RS>>> Ever see the movie, "Network?"

 EH>> No.

 RS> Try it.

I'll pass. I don't look at fantasy to explain reality, like you do.

Ed

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